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11-04-2018, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
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Man, I was cold last night
I am trying to save propane and only run the furnace long enough to take the chill out if the trailer. Then I use two electric heaters to try to keep the temp up.
The electric heaters are set on low as I only have 20amps coming into the trailer. I tried setting one on high and it affects the other heater. On low they both operate fine.
I am in a 2013 Keystone Vantage 25RBS and staying in the mountains 75 miles east of Pittsburgh for a few more nights. Already been here a month....ugh.
I never dreamed I would need to use this trailer this time of year but here I am. A Nov. wedding is why. This has me wondering how warm other trailers are.
Even when I use the propane furnace to heat the trailer up to 76 which it does in this small(ish) trailer easy. Lol, I should sleep on the floor in the bathroom as that warms up the most while the bed area gets the least heat.
I have cold spots at the head of the bed as well as a lot of other spots in the trailer. I do not need to know what to do but wonder if all other trailers have this same issue. Very difficult to keep warm when temps drop below freezing?
Oh, the last few nights I should be better as they are not going to be as cold.
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11-04-2018, 12:24 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Yep, that is the way most of them are! The walls are only 2" thick...not nearly the insulation of a house.
Many don't have double pane windows either.
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11-04-2018, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Western Montana
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Use a fan to circulate air to even out the temp. Personally, I set the furnace or electric heaters on about 60 and just add a blanket or wear a sweatshirt. While boondocking a couple months ago, I forgot to turn on the furnace before going to bed. Woke up to ice on the windshield and 47 deg inside. That was a tad brisk.
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11-04-2018, 12:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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If temps are dropping below freezing then YOU staying warm is least of possible issues ie: frozen plumbing
Run the Furnace.....you stay warm and plumbing lines don't freeze/burst
Takes propane AND the furnace to maintain comfortable temps
Go fill up those propane cylinders and USE it
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11-04-2018, 12:45 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2
I am trying to save propane and only run the furnace long enough to take the chill out if the trailer. Then I use two electric heaters to try to keep the temp up.
The electric heaters are set on low as I only have 20amps coming into the trailer. I tried setting one on high and it affects the other heater. On low they both operate fine.
I am in a 2013 Keystone Vantage 25RBS and staying in the mountains 75 miles east of Pittsburgh for a few more nights. Already been here a month....ugh.
I never dreamed I would need to use this trailer this time of year but here I am. A Nov. wedding is why. This has me wondering how warm other trailers are.
Even when I use the propane furnace to heat the trailer up to 76 which it does in this small(ish) trailer easy. Lol, I should sleep on the floor in the bathroom as that warms up the most while the bed area gets the least heat.
I have cold spots at the head of the bed as well as a lot of other spots in the trailer. I do not need to know what to do but wonder if all other trailers have this same issue. Very difficult to keep warm when temps drop below freezing?
Oh, the last few nights I should be better as they are not going to be as cold.
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Try keeping the slide in ... a lot of heat is lost through old seals and the gaps.
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11-04-2018, 12:54 PM
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Thor Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Couple of tricks that will help.
1. Cover the windows with reflective insulation.
2. If your rig has slides bring the in if possible. Slides seal better retracted and the will reduce the interior air volume that needs to be heated.
3. Use a small fan to circulate the air.
4. Electric blankets. They really do work, very well, and sip electrical power.
Don't try and skimp too much on saving the propane. Don't forget it also supplies warm air to keep the tanks from freezing.
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11-04-2018, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
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This trailer does not have dual pane windows and is not advertised as being heavily insulated. It is not an Artic Fox or ORV or even a Lance.
I start out with the propane furnace and two electric heaters. But even with 2 electric heaters the furnace runs 4 mins on then 4 min off. I eventually have the trailer warm when I go to bed. I can not fall asleep with the propane furnace running 50% or the time so I turn it off. But 4 hours later brrr, I wake up cold.
I sleep with socks, hoody sweatshirt and tossle cap on. Last night was extra cold outside, a clear night that I think the temps dropped to 28 or 29 degrees.
I have a tower oscillating electric heater to try to spread heat. Also a stationary small box electric heater.
I moved to Florida but the wife likes the idea of spending Thanksgiving in the north. If we want to use a trailer as a hotel
room (like I am doing now) then I probably need that Artic Fox trailer.
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11-04-2018, 01:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
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SUGGESTION:
In our water/water heater storage area we have an 120V electric outlet. Use it with an incandescent light. It keeps the area warm without using propane.
Regards,
JimB
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11-04-2018, 01:27 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Spartan Chassis
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Location: McAlester Ok
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Sorry.I don’t care about all hype, and BS the sales guys or brochures say ; these things are not built for temperature extremes, winter or summer!
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11-04-2018, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
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Here is a pic of my set-up. I am plugged into a 20amp outlet in the pole barn. I am on my friends property. Actually all in all, I have a very nice set-up here.
I do want to somehow test the Artic Fox. I will explain I will not buy an Artic Fox unless I can test it at the dealership for insulation.
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11-04-2018, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Have you tried shutting all the shades set temp at about 45 Degrees so nothing freezes shutting the door really tight Locking all the doors.and getting a Motel.
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11-04-2018, 04:21 PM
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Community Administrator
Pond Piggies Club LA Gulf Coast Campers Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club Skyline Owners Group
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To answer your question: Some TT's are better insulated than others. Having had a Keystone, they are not one with great insulation.
Lori-
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11-04-2018, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SLC, UT
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We are nice and cozy in our Alfa. Heat pumps do a good job down until the low 30's. We've only had the furnace kick on once or twice - it kicks in as "emergency heat" when the thermostat is 5 below what you set it.
I have a little 1500watt job in the bathroom area to warm that up in the mornings...I have been pleasantly surprised how warm we are. My biggest complaint is the floor is cold. Might do heated floors next
4 seasons trailer with heated underbelly and a basement ac/heat-pump system. Can't beat it.
Edit: sorry, just realized this was the TT section...
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11-04-2018, 06:47 PM
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We just came out of North Dakota with our fifth wheel and one night last week it got down to 9F. We heat our camper with a elec fireplace and 1 space heater and during the night only use the space heater. We also put reflex it in the windows and vents, use a elec blanket, and put a 100W lamp near the water pump/tank. In the morning the camper is mid 50's inside (we like cold rooms for sleeping) and we will turn on the fireplace to get it back to the mid 60's inside. For cold floors, we wear slippers and put a heating pad under the desk to warm the feet.
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