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Old 10-25-2021, 12:07 PM   #1
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New 22 Gulfstream with many many defects...what to do?

Hi! Well at first I was a happy owner of a new Ameri-Lite 248BH but well...not so much anymore. So I'm looking for guidance on how to proceed. Its still under warranty and I've only had it since June 2021. So far I'm finding...

Some ceiling bays completely missing insulation

Some walls don't have insulation

The entire front cap appears to have no insulation

The roof decking is lifting where the seams are and the whole deck feels spongy but it's not wet...3/8 plywood decking so it's walkable

The hole for power wires for the awning arm was so large water soaked the entire front storage area and floor. Water did run behind the siding and most likely soaked the insulation and paneling...I did temp fix this but it looks terrible.

The skylight is leaking but it's also poorly installed...just added dicor but it needs to be taken out and reinstalled.

The water heater smells when it gets hot

The awning arm on the other side was only held I by one bolt...even though it had 4. Had to take the wall apart to fix that

Two windows had large gaps in caulking up top which I fixed

Water pipe under sink leaked and swelled the joints of the cabinets

Lots of rusty staples by the edge of the floor...where trim should be but missing

And who knows what else...I can fix anything but the lack of insulation and leaks because of poor installation are not really fixable without alot of tearing apart.

Worst part is...Gulfstream does not have a service center and I have to work through the dealer.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:17 PM   #2
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have you contacted the dealer about this? is the dealer local. it sounds totally unacceptable.
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:18 PM   #3
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From their sales info, see what it says about insulation. If it is not built to their stated spec, then you have something concrete to work with.

The shoddy workmanship is mostly normal. It's sad, but true.

A friend of mine bought an 80k airstream 2 years ago and had to have his atty, get onto them to get his fixed, as it should have been built to start with. The factory picked it up, fixed, and returned.
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Old 10-25-2021, 12:26 PM   #4
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Dealer is local thankfully... last one I bought in Indiana. And yep...brochure and their website both talk about the thick blankets of insulation lol. My biggest concern is condensation in the walls and ceiling.

I am completely fine fixing most anything but now I'm looking at wall paneling that needs to be replaced and who knows how they would even fix the insulation problem. That to me is just crazy.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:04 PM   #5
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As a lucky owner (a long time ago) of a new 2008 Gulfstream Streamlite 22 SLB that I had for 5 years (my 1st trailer). I had zero problems but could sense it was not a well built trailer. I saw lots of things I would have built better. I replaced a lot of thin plywood with thicker plywood for example. When I traded it in it showed some age. I also had 'shoddy' workmanship. My trailer was not insulated very well.

The Amerilite was a step down from the Streamlite.
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They write this stuff to make it sound like itís high quality. Energy saving blankets is ďakaĒcheap fiberglass batten insulation. Worst part they use no vapor barrier, so yes condensation can be a big problem, as batten insulation will absorb water vapor.



I will never own nothing but a full laminated foam board trailer. But that limits you to a very few manufacturers.
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Old 10-25-2021, 04:38 PM   #7
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I was fully aware of the potential quality issues...had a 2021 Gulfstream Ameri-Lite 199DD...but it atleast had insulation in the front cap and throughout the rest of the trailer. Really do like the layout and in the few months I've owned it I've already build a new dinette, wider shelf above the bed and wallpapered the repair area in one of the bunks.

I have to say though...im at the opposite end of things when it comes to laminated vs stick and tin. Laminated is quite a bit more difficult to repair.
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Wow. I've been thinking of trading up from my thoroughly loved/fixed 2014 to a newer 2019/2020.. but if this is how bad workmanship has gotten during the sales boom I may hold off a few years..
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Old 10-27-2021, 01:42 PM   #9
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Wow that is terrible.

I bought a new Ameri Lite this year and have been quite impressed with it. There has been a lot of little things to fix, upgrade, or seal. But nothing like what you've shown here. Mine is a 2021 197BH.

My parents have a 2 year old Ameri Lite (currently at my house too) that's larger with a slide, outdoor kitchen, and tandem axle. They have had good luck with theirs as well.

Hope your luck gets better!
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Time to lawyer up if they can't or won't fix it correctly
which seems very difficult, especially by the dealer.
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Hire a good law firm.. time to return it back and ask for compensation..
Good luck and let us know what you did and maybe better members then me will help you
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I'll be taking it to the dealer after this weekend. TBD on what happens next.
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