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Doss · 06-21-2022, 05:58 PM

Looks like you guys have a great forum here.
This evening I signed the papers on a Keystone Hideout TT. We have had 2 Fifth wheel Toy Haulers in the past.
I sold my last one and my F-350 during the pandemic craze.

This is a good bit smaller and I will be pulling it with a Z71 Suburban, so I am anxious to learn all the TT differences.

It is coming with a WDH so that is new. No slides, right at 5,000 dry.

I hope to pick it up this week or next.

Martian · 06-22-2022, 06:45 AM

Welcome to the forum! Now the tough part. The dry weight of the trailer is meaningless so the best thing to do is post the max weight of the trailer along with the length. This will give folks on the forum an idea of what you really have. When you do post the real numbers be ready for questions about the tow vehicle. The world gets turned around pretty good going from a 5er to a TT. Be ready for some shock.

Wiscampsin1 · 06-22-2022, 07:25 AM

Welcome form Wisconsin. Congrats and enjoy your Keystone Hideout.

carybosse · 06-22-2022, 07:54 AM

Welcome!

You might add your tow vehicle and the TT with model number to your signature line. It will help people answer your questions without having to ask and it will also let people know what you have when they have questions about a similar rig.

Just go to the USER CP tab at the top of the screen and then look around for the EDIT SIGNATURE tab.

Not sure of the door rating for the Suburban, in 2022, it was rated for between 7400 and 8300 tow capacity. With a 5K dry weight, you may be pushing that. Payload is between 1539 and 1750 pounds. Figuring with a dry weight of 5K you have an actual weight of 6K, and 12% tongue weight, you have used up half of your payload with the TT.

Good news is the Suburban is longer than the Tahoe, so a much more stable tow vehicle in that regard.

Your rig may be pretty sensitive to setup, the WDH as well as determining what goes in the trailer, what goes in the Suburban. (Hint: Kids, Spouse, Pets in the Suburban, cargo in the trailer. )

Doss · 06-22-2022, 03:31 PM

Thanks for the welcome.
I haven't added anything to my signature yet. A bit superstitious about doing that before it comes home.

I will look on the door placard tonight.

Turns out the Z71 is a bit of an oddity. It has the gear ratio the same as the Max Hauling version, but it doesn't have a transmission cooler or brake controller.
I have yet to get an exact tow weight on for the thing, but as you guys say, I will work from the Suburban payload weight less people, less tongue weight.

We plan and have gone to Gulf Shores a lot. We found a mini storage unit down there for $40 a month. In the past we have kept fishing gear etc there that we didn't want to cart back and forth. That will play a role in keeping the weight out of the rig.

Plus the wife will probably drive her SUV down as well so she will haul bikes etc

Doss · 06-23-2022, 06:10 AM

Interesting, the placard in the door doesn't give GVWR or anything, only a statement that says combined weight of ,581cargo and occupants should never exceed 1,581 lbs.

So if the trailer weighs out at 6,000 and I use the 12% for tongue weight (720 lbs) than they leaves 861 for passengers and cargo in the Burban.