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Unicorn Driver · 10-28-2021, 08:58 AM

Hi,

I have a 2018 Expedition 4x4 with heavy duty package. Dealer service dept ran the VIN and said its good tow mid 9000lbs and had the better rear axle ratio (think they said 3.73).

Currently tow a 4 door Wrangler behind a 38ft gas pusher which we will be changing out next year.

Anyways, would the Expedition be happy towing say a 5000-6000lb TT in the 25ft range? Or would I be better of with a longer wheel base truck?

Thanks,

AirZone · 10-28-2021, 07:25 PM

I have a 2020 Expedition with same tow package . Tow a 24 ft, 6000lbs Jayco Whitehawk with no problems.

Unicorn Driver · 10-29-2021, 06:25 AM

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I have a 2020 Expedition with same tow package . Tow a 24 ft, 6000lbs Jayco Whitehawk with no problems.

Great to know. how's your mog when towing? What speed you doing?

bjkb1f · 10-29-2021, 02:32 PM

Would you be better off with a longer wheel base truck? Probably. But I don't think you'll have any problems in the 5-6k range as long as that is the loaded weight. 6K dry plus 1,000-1,500 lbs of stuff might be pushing it.

AirZone · 10-29-2021, 05:31 PM

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Great to know. how's your mog when towing? What speed you doing?

Just like everyone else, gas mileage sucks. The faster you go, the faster the gas needle drops. At about 100kmh was getting roughly 24 L / 100km and that was some hilly roads.

tuffr2 · 10-29-2021, 05:48 PM

If you know the wheelbase of your tow vehicle here is a guideline chart.

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shane_the_ee · 10-30-2021, 06:08 AM

Mine’s shorter but weighs 6000lbs. My expedition is perfectly happy with the trailer, albeit a bit thirsty at times. I get 10-11mpg and usually tow at 70mph on the interstates.

Unicorn Driver · 10-30-2021, 01:20 PM

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If you know the wheelbase of your tow vehicle here is a guideline chart.

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Thanks Tuffr,

So about 23foot so.

tuffr2 · 10-30-2021, 03:41 PM

I believe length is about as important as weight.

My experience - I had a tow vehicle with a 122" wheelbase towing a 26.5' travel trailer. The trailer weighed 4,500lbs but I think too long for my tow vehicle to control it. I towed local to state parks where my top speed was about 50 mph on back roads. I did this for 3 years without a problem. After I retired I wanted to go further. Well I had too much sway.

With the exact same trailer and set-up I bought a new tow vehicle with 147" wheelbase. The 147" wheelbase towed this trailer rock solid. No sway, even from semi trucks. I could easily tow at 72 mph without any sway. This was one of my very best towing combinations.

If you want to tow local to a state park and not tow on the highway that is way easier. I had 2 state parks that were all back road towing. One state park had a nice lake and the other had mountain hiking. I towed mostly below 45 mph and a 122" tow vehicle worked great.

Again traveling faster in the highway is way different. Slow means no sway. Fast will mean sway if the wheelbase is not long enough.

TXiceman · 10-31-2021, 08:58 AM

With the Expy, I would not go above about 26 foot, PROVIDED you can keep within the cargo capacity of the Expy. The Expy does not have a large cargo capacity and you eat up a lot of it with passengers, before you ever hook up a trailer and its tongue weight. A travel trailer will have a tongue weight of around 10 to 12% of the trailer GVWR. A 9000 lb. trailer will have a pin weight of 1080 lb. when fully loaded. Does the Expy have enough payload to handle the 1080 lb. plus, passengers. cargo, hitch, etc.

Your Expy will be limited by the cargo capacity.

Ken

Bigfin · 10-31-2021, 09:13 AM

My 2015 Expy (shorty) tows my 25’ ORV extremely well…Was not happy at first, but with 10 ply LT tires on TV aired to 60 PSI, GY Endurance tires on trailer aired to 65 PSI and WD/anti-sway hitch, all is really good…BTW, Ecoboost is a “towing beast”…My only concern is with twin turbos, that is a lot of fast spinning engine parts, at 80K miles I am gonna buy a F250, 7.3 L gasser.

Unicorn Driver · 11-01-2021, 07:27 AM

Thanks all, all great info.

Desert Flyer · 11-09-2021, 09:37 PM

I believe Expedition has a hitch receiver max rating of 930 lbs. Subtract 100 lbs for your WD hitch and you are left with 830 lbs. 830 / .125 = 6,600 lbs is your max loaded trailer with 12.5% tongue weight.

Unicorn Driver · 11-10-2021, 07:53 AM

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I believe Expedition has a hitch receiver max rating of 930 lbs. Subtract 100 lbs for your WD hitch and you are left with 830 lbs. 830 / .125 = 6,600 lbs is your max loaded trailer with 12.5% tongue weight.

Thanks Desert Flyer. I had thought it could handle about that. I appreciate your help.