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07-01-2023, 03:38 PM
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tire upgrade
We are looking at purchasing a new winnebago 2500fl 2023. unit comes with Goodyear Endurance 225 75 r15,s ...I have done some research and found these are better then the Marathones that everyone had issues with. What would a step up be if i wanted to swap them out in a year or so?
Little background. we cirrently have a 2011 sydney outback 5ver 12,000lbs and i went what i think was overboard on tires, first i had duravis r250 then went to r500, because could not find 250,s.
Not looking for a war on tires just honest good ideas.
Thanks j mac
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07-01-2023, 04:41 PM
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Why would you want to "upgrade" one year old Goodyear tires?
The Endurance tires are good tires why not stick with them?
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07-01-2023, 04:56 PM
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upgrade
Because i like to go overboard for safety.
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07-01-2023, 08:31 PM
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Little background. we cirrently have a 2011 sydney outback 5ver 12,000lbs and i went what i think was overboard on tires, first i had duravis r250 then went to r500, because could not find 250,s.
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Bridgestone Durvis R-250 came in 16" LTR sizes but Bridgestone stopped production.. It was a commercial grade all steel ply carcass. It was replaced with the new upgraded R-238 same 16" LT sizes all steel ply carcass commercial grade tire.
The Endurance is one of about three top line ST tires.
For a upgrade you will need to go with a 16" LT E like the commercial grade Bridgestone R-238.
The biggest downside of the Endurance is only 8/32" of tread depth.... makes for a short term miles of service... if it matters. Most rv trailers never wear a tire out so they work fine for those folks.
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07-01-2023, 10:34 PM
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I just changed from 6 ply 45 psi tires to the 8 ply 65psi endurance tires. sure made a difference in how the trailer tows, not so wobbly back there.
Jay D.
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07-02-2023, 01:14 AM
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Go all out and upgrade to 16" wheels and put Michelin XPS Ribs on.
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07-02-2023, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by outbackmac
We are looking at purchasing a new winnebago 2500fl 2023. unit comes with Goodyear Endurance 225 75 r15,s ...I have done some research and found these are better then the Marathones that everyone had issues with. What would a step up be if i wanted to swap them out in a year or so?
Little background. we cirrently have a 2011 sydney outback 5ver 12,000lbs and i went what i think was overboard on tires, first i had duravis r250 then went to r500, because could not find 250,s.
Not looking for a war on tires just honest good ideas.
Thanks j mac
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Well as stated the Endurance are very good ST tires, with plenty of rated load capacity.
The tires you used on your Sydney were LT tires, that actually have a lower rated load capacity then their ST counterparts. That said I run LT tires on our 5th wheel. They may have a lower load rating, but they have a higher speed rating, and have more stringent requirements.
I don't tow over 70 mph, usually 60 to 65, just nice to know I m nowhere near the speed rating of the tire.
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07-02-2023, 11:08 AM
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I would give a [emoji106] for the Michelin 16" XPS Ribs. But beware they are heavy and not easy to muscle back onto the trailer. I took the wheels off my 5th wheel and took them to the tire shop to have the XPS Ribs mounted. It took all the muscle I had to get the wheels with XPS Ribs mounted back on my 5th wheel.
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07-02-2023, 11:52 AM
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Overkill? The best?
Michelin 16" XPS rib
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07-02-2023, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2
I would give a [emoji106] for the Michelin 16" XPS Ribs. But beware they are heavy and not easy to muscle back onto the trailer. I took the wheels off my 5th wheel and took them to the tire shop to have the XPS Ribs mounted. It took all the muscle I had to get the wheels with XPS Ribs mounted back on my 5th wheel.
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LOL BTDT with my new 14 ply Sailuns. The tire guy had a heckuva time just mounting them. Maybe his machine was weak but it would barely spin the bead around the rim. He had to call another guy over to muscle it on.
When I went to mount them it was all I could do to get them on the wheel studs. I found a trick though. Once I got the studs at the right height I set the wheel in place then used a catspaw to lift it onto the studs. Super easy.
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07-03-2023, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2
I would give a [emoji106] for the Michelin 16" XPS Ribs. But beware they are heavy and not easy to muscle back onto the trailer. I took the wheels off my 5th wheel and took them to the tire shop to have the XPS Ribs mounted. It took all the muscle I had to get the wheels with XPS Ribs mounted back on my 5th wheel.
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Use a shovel as a lever to lift the tire.
Easy, no strain.
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07-03-2023, 11:04 AM
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Location: Palm Coast Florida
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I used my foot to try to line up the studs. The 1st wheel went on much easier than the last as I was losing strength.
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07-03-2023, 12:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
LOL BTDT with my new 14 ply Sailuns. The tire guy had a heckuva time just mounting them. Maybe his machine was weak but it would barely spin the bead around the rim. He had to call another guy over to muscle it on.
When I went to mount them it was all I could do to get them on the wheel studs. I found a trick though. Once I got the studs at the right height I set the wheel in place then used a catspaw to lift it onto the studs. Super easy.
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YEP, much better to use your brain than your back.
Jay D.
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07-06-2023, 04:18 PM
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The shovel idea is brilliant
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