Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Travel Trailer Discussion
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-26-2020, 01:54 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
Weight advice

Looking for advice on weight/adjusting load.
Rear wheel drive passenger van pulling 33 foot travel trailer:
Van: 8160 lbs. on scale, unhitched, loaded.
Van: 9100 lbs. on scale, hitched, loaded.
Trailer: 6320 lbs. on scale, hitched, loaded
Combined: 15,420 lbs. on scale.
Van's GCWR = 16,000
Tow capacity = 8700
GVWR = 9450
GAWR Fr. = 3825
GAWR Rr. = 5875
It looks level to us, but we're new to this (photo attached).
Thank you!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	VanAndTrailerPhoto.jpg
Views:	37
Size:	164.9 KB
ID:	294631   Click image for larger version

Name:	VanDoorSticker.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	408.2 KB
ID:	294632  

Click image for larger version

Name:	VanOwnersManual.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	234.3 KB
ID:	294633  
Ellen S. is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 07-26-2020, 02:54 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
That looks level to me. Good job.

Does it tow without being squirrely? If so, that is as good as it gets.
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2020, 03:13 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
It does seem to drive well. So you think our numbers add up okay? We're not too heavy? (think mountains!)
Ellen S. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2020, 03:22 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
450Donn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas,OR
Posts: 4,584
You do need to get the as loaded ready to travel weights on each axle. Then look at your tire ratings. I suspect if you have P metric tires on the van you might be at or over the tires limits. Also remember your tires might have soft sidewalls which can cause some squirlley handling at s.peeds
__________________
Don and Lorri
Resident Dummy.
450Donn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2020, 03:31 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
Your numbers look reasonable with a bit too much weight on the tongue but too much weight on the tongue is a heck of a lot better than not enough weight. If it is towing ok I would not change anything.

Towing up a mountain will not be easy but that is normal. Going down a mountain slow down way ahead of time and toy will need to shift manually I think. It is better to use your engine to slow you down vs using the brakes. A combination of using both is needed going down the mountain (engine and brakes).

Curious - what van is that and what is the 'Occupant and Cargo' capacity?

Is that a Nissan NV2500?

450Donn - the tires are listed as LT from the picture.
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2020, 04:51 PM   #6
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 16
It's an NV3500.
Ellen S. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2020, 08:35 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
CharlesinGA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: South of Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,145
940 lbs tongue weight, less if you didn't weigh the van with the hitch installed in the receiver.

Gross weight of both van and trailer hitched, minus weight of van alone equals weight of trailer.

Weight of trailer minus trailer axle weight equals tongue weight.

Trailer weight total (7260) times 13% (.13) is 943 lbs so you are spot on for optimal tongue weight. Looks level. Did you measure front wheel well to ground before hitching and after hitching and again after hooking up weight bars? The weight bars should restore most of the front end rise you get when you hitch the trailer.

Charles
__________________
'03 Ram 2500 CTD, 5.9HO six speed PacBrake std cab long bed Leer top and 2008 Bigfoot 25B21RB.. Previously, 2008 Thor Freedom Spirit 180, SOLD! 2007 Winnebago View 23H Motorhome, SOLD!
CharlesinGA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2020, 01:31 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
Posts: 5,154
All good advice above!
Was the van fully loaded? Weights need to have all passengers, luggage, equipment, anything else to be added.
Was the TT fully loaded ready for Travel? Water, propane, food, folding chairs, etc.
What is the tongue weight allowed by the hitch? It may have it's own limit.

It looks like you are good to go!
__________________
Paul Bristol
Kodiak Cub 176RD
Nissan Pathfinder 2015
Persistent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2020, 09:07 AM   #9
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellen S. View Post
Looking for advice on weight/adjusting load.
Rear wheel drive passenger van pulling 33 foot travel trailer:
Van: 8160 lbs. on scale, unhitched, loaded.
Van: 9100 lbs. on scale, hitched, loaded.
Trailer: 6320 lbs. on scale, hitched, loaded
Combined: 15,420 lbs. on scale.
Van's GCWR = 16,000
Tow capacity = 8700
GVWR = 9450
GAWR Fr. = 3825
GAWR Rr. = 5875
It looks level to us, but we're new to this (photo attached).
Thank you!
I'm thinking of doing this same setup but maybe with a smaller trailer. How's it going? Any issues? Highway driving with semi's making you sway at all? Hard to find posts about NV3500's pulling trailers. I have 4 car seats and need the safest build for my family.

THANKS!
Newventures is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2020, 12:31 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Normal_Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 740
I'm liking the setup, (being a former van tow rig person).

Closer inspection of the pictures reveal an Anderson weight distribution hitch. I'll ditto prior recommendations on front fender before/after height measurements to help determine proper WD hitch setup. Also need separate loaded and hitched axle weights.

Go back through the Anderson paperwork or YouTube to ensure you are getting the most benefit from a quality hitch.

In the mountains, let that 5.6L V8 sing, gear it down according to Nissan recommendations. Don't try to win the race uphill, but be satisfied with steady as she goes.


Very well done.


Enjoy!
__________________
2002 Mitsubishi Montero Limited
1995 E-150 Club Wagon Chateau 5.8L (old school cool)
2012 Cargo Craft 7x16 Camper/Toy Hauler Conversion
Normal_Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2020, 12:51 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Old-Biscuit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 26,846
Looks Level......


You list Vans Gross Axle Ratings
GAWR Fr. = 3825
GAWR Rr. = 5875
But did not list ACTUAL Scaled weights WITH WDH and W?O WDH


How close are you to those Axle Ratings?
How close are you getting back to Front Axle weight using the WDH?
__________________
I took my Medication today. HAVE YOU?
Dodge 3500 w/Tractor Motor
US NAVY---USS Decatur DDG-31
Old-Biscuit is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
advice, weight



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dry (shipping) Weight = Axle Weight + Pin Weight? Old Bill Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 11 12-05-2016 04:58 PM
Dry weight vs sticker weight Vcarbona Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 19 08-26-2013 09:24 AM
Weight-distributing versus weight-carrying DaveTN Travel Trailer Discussion 18 02-15-2013 09:48 AM
Power to weight ratios and torque to weight ratios Mystery Newmar Owner's Forum 8 01-03-2013 05:16 AM
When is over weight really over weight melon Toy Haulers Discussion 24 01-11-2007 05:35 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.