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Old 04-15-2022, 03:03 PM   #2199
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For those coming here for the first time and jumping to the end, you skipped a lot of stuff. Some good. Some bad. A lot could be a waste of time, but you are here because you are interested in a simple solution for UNLIMITED internet for $40. Since the thread was started, currently you can get your monthly expenses down $25 getting a Party Pay. You need to Google that outside of here and not ask someone on this site to join. That appears to be against the rules.

Here is a summary of the thread to hopefully help get what you need to know without having to read it all. If you have the strength and courage of William Wallace….read it all!

(Pages below are only if you are using the default settings for the number of posts per page)
First 5 pages are mostly people saying, "Yes, I want to see that option"
Pages 5-15 were discussion using Jetpack or Pepwave and using different phones (and people still interested) and porting problems (I still don't recommend that you port your number)
Pages 15-60 have discussion about other services, other set-ups, and a lot more complaining that it didn't work and a lot of happy people that is all worked easily following the POST #10. Some tangents and then getting really confusing as to who was talking about what.
Page 60-67 - Uuukkk. Just some banter about the thread getting too long and my desire to try to help those coming in later not be consumed by 1,000 different options and systems and configurations. If the option on POST #10 doesn't work for you, feel free to search the IRV2 site and find a thread that offers different setups and configurations. Many other discussions. Doesn't help this thread to start new topics on different equipment. Please feel free to start a new topic outside of this thread in the forum category.

1) The "solution" is on POST #10. There is an attached Google Doc that is kept up to date and gives a very specific list of equipment to purchase and disclaimers about the service to help set your expectations. The setup will work off of 12v USB in your RV and will allow multiple devices to all be connected to a hotspot. We run this while driving and stream our music on Pandora or Spotity the whole time. Doesn't need 120v to run anything. Please understand that this configuration is suggesting you buy their cheapest phone (get a new phone number for it) and leave it running constantly as your internet service.

2) The service is called Visible (now there is Yahoo, also owned by Verizon and appears to be exactly the same service). It is owned by Verizon and using their towers. Though unlimited internet, the speed fluctuates depending on area or time of day. Some have been using it for a long time and have enough speed to stream TV almost all the time. Others have used it in different areas at different times and NOT had enough speed. If you are looking at this as a permanent solution for your home or stationary RV, there is no way to tell if it will be good in your exact position, but the cost to try is fairly low.

3) If this solution is not the best setup for you, feel free to search for other threads on IRV2 that discuss higher cost and different configuration options. Search for "load balancing" or "high availability" or "redundancy". Plenty of other options. You can still add Visible to those other options. This thread configuration is not about those variations. Many use this setup to stream Netflix or Hulu and can do so all month long without worrying about limits. PLEASE...read and understand the disclaimers on the POST #10 doc before you move forward.

4) Many have had a good and bad experiences using it around the country:
Rough start, but now glad
Followed POST #10 and went well
Setup and running in 30 minutes

Porting problems
Not good service
Not great speeds
Great Speeds

5) Visible doesn't ship to PO Boxes

6) There was a 5Mb download limit, but that was removed. Some experience very high speeds at times. Others stay lower. Most (but not all) seem to be able to stream most of the time (which is the main purpose of unlimited internet for most). Some getting very high speeds. Page 15.

7) Some long ago had problems porting their phone number, but I haven't seen that post in a long time. I switched my neighbor over to Visible just to get a new phone, and it took PagePlus 10 days just to release her number so Visible could activate it. Could be a problem with your previous carrier as well as Visible.

8) Like any cellular service, some get bad support or service. Others had great support and service. Their tech support is only through a chat....no phone to call. Again, reduce your odds of needing to use their support by following the doc on post #10

9) At this time, you can only have one phone and service per account. Little pain in the butt. I opted to create 4 accounts for 4 phones using different emails and payment methods. Not ideal, but I created my own Party Pay. $25/line/month=$100/month for 4 phones each with unlimited data. Phone for me, my wife, full-time internet, and my daughter.

10) This is not a super high-speed service. Many have compared and contrasted the speed using a standard Verizon or AT&T network. This option will most often be slower. Sometimes much slower. If having the highest speed possible is your need, see the header at the top about searching for other threads to help you get what you need.

11) There are discussions about using the SIM chip in Jetpack or other mifi devices. Some worked. Some worked for a time. Seems like some have been using it for a long time. No clarity or certainty. You can try. Just first need to activate their SIM using their App on phones that work with their app. Not all phone are compatible...which is why the instructions on post #10 are suggesting you just get their cheapest phone and not worry about compatibility and avoid tech support.
Pepwave
Jetpack
Getting JetPack to work
Then more to get it to work
Some stopped working

12) Some discussion about the WeBoost signal amplifier to increase your cellular range around page 13-15 (BTW...don't purchase the WeBoost unless signal strength is a common problem for you…adds a lot more work and expense)

So, the skinny....service is great for some and working to their needs and downloading 150-280 GIGs!!!!! a month. Others tried for a short while and could never get acceptable speeds.

Following the instructions on post #10 , most everyone (if they purchased the recommended equipment and followed the instruction) found it easy enough that they didn't need outside help. Some (even myself at times) have had issues with their support chat. Some loved it. Some were ready to kill. I would continue to recommend doing post #10 exactly so you take the cleanest route and most likely won't need their support. Any variation could force you to use their support chat. Hit or miss. Often people try to save $6 and not get a new 12V USB power adapter and then waste a lot of time wondering why it doesn't all work….hint, the power supply you have is not giving you 2.4A output….REQUIRED for the setup.

Some have tried variations. If you live on the internet 24/7 and require high availability all the time, try looking up user "DocJ" and send him a private message. He has options for those that need load-balancing or redundancy. This option and thread is not that. This is a simple option for those that aren't bothered by slower speeds at times but really benefit from a lower monthly cost all the time and want the option of streaming as much as they like, and don't want to try to buy various pieces of random equipment to build a system they don't understand. post #10 is doing that for you and saving you the trouble.

I should mention lastly that if you only need to connect up a single device (only a TV or only a computer….not both at the same time), you could skip everything on post #10 and just buy a phone from Visible for cheap. All of their phones have the HOTSPOT available for at least single connection by default….which is nice since most other providers want more money just to turn that on.

In the end, please read slowly and carefully the attached doc on post #10. If it doesn't seem right for you, I will encourage you to continue the search on IRV2 for other options. This thread is already too long to start new ideas or configurations. If you have an experience to post or questions on the configuration of post #10 , please continue to use this thread as many are still following and glad to help you with the configuration on post #10.
Thank you for the info. You've explained this in great detail.
As a Canadian I'm interested in giving this a try when I visit the US. It appears you have to transfer a number from an existing carrier, of which I don't have in the US. I'm not sure of how I'd get around this.
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Thank you for the info. You've explained this in great detail.
As a Canadian I'm interested in giving this a try when I visit the US. It appears you have to transfer a number from an existing carrier, of which I don't have in the US. I'm not sure of how I'd get around this.
You do not need to port a number. They can give you a number with the new SIM they will ship...to a US address....I assume
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Old 04-15-2022, 03:16 PM   #2201
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You do not need to port a number. They can give you a number with the new SIM they will ship...to a US address....I assume
Oh ok, that's good news. So maybe they would ship it to a UPS Store in the states and I could pick it up after crossing the border. If not I believe there are other ways of getting a US address, but I'd have to research that.


Edit, just got off chat with them and they will ship to a Fed Ex hub in the states.
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Old 04-18-2022, 09:17 AM   #2202
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I have read post 10! We have an Iphone 6s with Visible tethered to a Slate router with the firewall ttl set to 65. Connected by 2G and 5G to various devices througout the RV including a Roku TV which streams Netfix and our remote Plex server at 1080p very well.


The problem come when I connect my laptop to the Slate and try to download anything, I have connected it using 2G 5G and ethernet cable with the same results. within an minute or so of downloading anything on the laptop the tethered connection to the Slate is lost and needs to be reconnected. I have tried wifi instead of tethered, different phone with Verizon still the same problem. I have found a workaround which is the turn on the wifi on the tethered phone and connect the laptop to the hotspot, this works, however it is no longer on the same network so local Plex server doesn't work. I am 100% sure it is a Slate problem even tried a fan in case it was overheating. I have contacted GLI-net for assistance with no reply yet! Does anyone here have any ideas?
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I have read post 10! We have an Iphone 6s with Visible tethered to a Slate router with the firewall ttl set to 65. Connected by 2G and 5G to various devices througout the RV including a Roku TV which streams Netfix and our remote Plex server at 1080p very well.


The problem come when I connect my laptop to the Slate and try to download anything, I have connected it using 2G 5G and ethernet cable with the same results. within an minute or so of downloading anything on the laptop the tethered connection to the Slate is lost and needs to be reconnected. I have tried wifi instead of tethered, different phone with Verizon still the same problem. I have found a workaround which is the turn on the wifi on the tethered phone and connect the laptop to the hotspot, this works, however it is no longer on the same network so local Plex server doesn't work. I am 100% sure it is a Slate problem even tried a fan in case it was overheating. I have contacted GLI-net for assistance with no reply yet! Does anyone here have any ideas?
Does sound like it could be the Slate, if you have disconnected the USB from the phone to the router and tried the REPEATER mode and had the same results. There could also be a slew of possible app conflicts from your phone or setting on your laptop, if you tend to add on things. Best setup is a clean phone, clean "Slate" and computer without all kinds of weird add-ons for internet and browser.
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Does sound like it could be the Slate, if you have disconnected the USB from the phone to the router and tried the REPEATER mode and had the same results. There could also be a slew of possible app conflicts from your phone or setting on your laptop, if you tend to add on things. Best setup is a clean phone, clean "Slate" and computer without all kinds of weird add-ons for internet and browser.

New Slate, new laptop and wiped Iphone it was as clean an install as I could get! I'll just wait for GLI-net and see what they say!
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New Slate, new laptop and wiped Iphone it was as clean an install as I could get! I'll just wait for GLI-net and see what they say!
Maybe check if there are any firmware updates? I have a Beryl that was initially behaving erratically. Updated to the latest firmware and it has behaved well since.
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You do not need to port a number. They can give you a number with the new SIM they will ship...to a US address....I assume
It may be financially beneficial to port a number but it doesn't have to be one you've used in the past. Just buy a Ting SIM on Amazon for $1, activate it on Ting for $10 (their cheapest plan), then port that number the same day to Visible. Porting out closes the Ting account, so no future charges.

That qualified me for a $50 gift card offer when I bought a new Motorola one 5G UW Ace on sale to use as a dedicated hotspot. Net cost, $51. ($90 - $50 gift card + $11 for Ting SIM and acct.)
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It may be financially beneficial to port a number but it doesn't have to be one you've used in the past. Just buy a Ting SIM on Amazon for $1, activate it on Ting for $10 (their cheapest plan), then port that number the same day to Visible. Porting out closes the Ting account, so no future charges.

Be careful with this trick though as Visible has caught on and now only accepts certain ported numbers (from approved cellular carriers) as acceptable to complete the gift card offers. They have a list of acceptable carriers to port from buried on the site somewhere so check it out before any shenanigans to avoid disappointment. Forums are full of complaints that 'Visible won't give me my deal!' for this reason.
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New User update -


Starting with and following post #10 -


Placed order for a new Visible ZTE A3 Prime yesterday AM, it arrived via FedEx this afternoon.
Chose a new number, even though I do already have a data plan with AT&T that I've used for almost a year (actually have 2 plans but have been too lazy to cancel one - now that I'm up and running with Visible, the AT&T plans will be cancelled).
And, the phone had very limited startup instructions. The SIM card was taped to the outside of the box and the box was sealed. Upon opening, I found the phone, USB interface cable, USB wall-wort, the battery (shipped loose), and a simplified user pamphlet.

Finally figured out that the whole back comes off the phone to easily see where the battery goes and install. A few more minutes of looking around and a YouTube video made it clear which of the 2 SIM slots the single SIM went into (the other one actually looks like the slot for an MicroSDCard).
Not being an Android person, I just kept fishing around with the cell pone and got it up and running, figured out how to load the App after figuring out how to set up a different Google account. I might go back and change that once I get a little more accustomed to the overall setup.


I ordered the Beryl GL-M1300 router from Amazon right after ordering the phone and it arrived about an hour after the phone. I'm fairly familiar with router setup so getting it up and running was easy.


Only issue I had was getting the phone and router to talk to each other through the phone's USB charging/interface cable. Pushing a few more buttons on the router along with reloading the page a few times and they finally connected. But still no internet.


Then remembered Visible wants you to log in to your account and tell them you have the phone and installed the SIM - did that and a larger world of connectivity Options on the phone became available as well as the router began broadcasting a WiFi signal.


So - as of today's date - it still works - at least on the eastern outskirts of Dallas County, TX. We're headed to Austin in a couple of weeks and I'll get a chance to test by streaming Pandora through the phone/router setup to the MoHo radio as we drive down, then stream TV while at the MoHo park, and again stream Pandora as we make a quick trip to the Hill Country for a wine pickup.


Please feel free to PM me with questions - I'll try to answer the best I can.
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I have the same phone, I use my Win 10 HP All in One Hotspot in the coach. Has been working well streaming on the xbox one and the Firestick here on the Westbank outside New Orleans.
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For power users

For those following this thread that I started long, long ago, there is now another viable (but much more expensive) option.

StarLink just sent me an email letting us know that "portability" is now an option for an additional $25/month on top of their monthly fee $110/month, and a setup fee for the Dishy of $600.

The investment is more and the monthly is more, but with Starlink now covering almost all of the US, this option will provide you with better, faster, more reliable internet....SO LONG AS YOU HAVE A GOOD LINE OF SIGHT TO THE SKY.

If you tend to park in the shade of trees or in the forest, you may not have an opening large enough to get a good field of view. If you are even in RV parks with trees and cannot put the Dishy on the ground or somewhere nearby with a good field of view, this is not a good option.

If you tend to travel, have the money, can park in the open (perhaps you have a lot of solar panels you like in the sun) and MUST have constant, high-speed, unlimited internet...you may want to look at another thread I started long, long ago for the installation and use of Starlink for RVers.

https://www.irv2.com/forums/f53/starlink-rv-installation-and-use-512812.html

This page has a lot of information on how users have been installing it on RV's, taking it around with them, and options for mounting it. Until now, it has been hit or miss, working or not, able to change address or areas already full...making it less viable for RVers. With this announcement, we can travel anywhere and not have to change address and not worry about a cell area already being full.
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For those following this thread that I started long, long ago, there is now another viable (but much more expensive) option.

StarLink just sent me an email letting us know that "portability" is now an option for an additional $25/month on top of their monthly fee $110/month, and a setup fee for the Dishy of $600.

The investment is more and the monthly is more, but with Starlink now covering almost all of the US, this option will provide you with better, faster, more reliable internet....SO LONG AS YOU HAVE A GOOD LINE OF SIGHT TO THE SKY.

If you tend to park in the shade of trees or in the forest, you may not have an opening large enough to get a good field of view. If you are even in RV parks with trees and cannot put the Dishy on the ground or somewhere nearby with a good field of view, this is not a good option.

If you tend to travel, have the money, can park in the open (perhaps you have a lot of solar panels you like in the sun) and MUST have constant, high-speed, unlimited internet...you may want to look at another thread I started long, long ago for the installation and use of Starlink for RVers.

https://www.irv2.com/forums/f53/starlink-rv-installation-and-use-512812.html

This page has a lot of information on how users have been installing it on RV's, taking it around with them, and options for mounting it. Until now, it has been hit or miss, working or not, able to change address or areas already full...making it less viable for RVers. With this announcement, we can travel anywhere and not have to change address and not worry about a cell area already being full.
One thing that I haven't yet seen addressed is how can people with existing SL installations take advantage of this new opportunity if they don't want to uninstall their existing Dishy. For example, I have a round dish installed with its non-removable cable going through >50 ft of buried conduit.

I sure don't want to have to pull that cable back out if I want to take it with me on a trip. I hope there's a way to purchase a dish to use for traveling purposes. Of course, that will probably cost me another >$500. With the significant requirement for 100 degree field of view I'm not sure how often I'll be taking it camping, anyway.
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Question about the GL.iNet router -- Mine seems to be working fine, but it temporarily lost power. When it rebooted, I made sure the phone settings were correct. Re the 3 tiny green indicator lights on the router, the outside two are constant but the center one flashes part of the time.

I thought that I recall when it is booted up and working properly, that all 3 green indicator lights were on steady. Perhaps I am mistaken and the center light always blinked every little bit? Please advise. Thanks for any tips.
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