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Old 10-31-2020, 08:14 PM   #1499
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Thanks again Goodspike. I'm not sold on the Moto completely. Just looking for the best phone for the least amount of money.
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:08 PM   #1500
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Why is this thread suddenly dead? Has someone found something better?
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:19 PM   #1501
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Why is this thread suddenly dead? Has someone found something better?
No, I think that maybe just about all that can be said about the topic has already been said... five times
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No, I think that maybe just about all that can be said about the topic has already been said... five times
or 10.. LOL

I can say I have visible now from early on.. I use it as my main phone , I still have verizon thru a work plan but Visible works not only in RV but for a daily user. .NICE Imo..

At my rural house, after 7-8 pm I use visble as tower is FAR and coverage is so so,, but I use it hard to stream and surf at same time a few hours a nite if not more..

I do have a tmobile (mint) that limits to 35g.. only since I can see the tower and it works better when we need it .. ATT is on that tower also..

In town visible screams data DL at 60-80 megg all day if I use as a failover..
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For those coming here for the first time and jumping to the end, you skipped a lot of stuff. Some good. Some bad. A lot could be a waste of time, but you are here because you are interested in a simple solution for UNLIMITED internet for $40. Since the thread was started, currently you can get your monthly expenses down $25 getting a Party Pay. You need to Google that outside of here and not ask someone on this site to join. That appears to be against the rules.

Here is a summary of the thread to hopefully help get what you need to know without having to read it all. If you have the strength and courage of William Wallace….read it all!

(Pages below are only if you are using the default settings for the number of posts per page)
First 5 pages are mostly people saying, "Yes, I want to see that option"
Pages 5-15 were discussion using Jetpack or Pepwave and using different phones (and people still interested) and porting problems (I still don't recommend that you port your number)
Pages 15-60 have discussion about other services, other set-ups, and a lot more complaining that it didn't work and a lot of happy people that is all worked easily following the POST #10. Some tangents and then getting really confusing as to who was talking about what.
Page 60-67 - Uuukkk. Just some banter about the thread getting too long and my desire to try to help those coming in later not be consumed by 1,000 different options and systems and configurations. If the option on POST #10 doesn't work for you, feel free to search the IRV2 site and find a thread that offers different setups and configurations. Many other discussions. Doesn't help this thread to start new topics on different equipment. Please feel free to start a new topic outside of this thread in the forum category.

1) The "solution" is on post #10. There is an attached Google Doc that is kept up to date and gives a very specific list of equipment to purchase and disclaimers about the service to help set your expectations. The setup will work off of 12v USB in your RV and will allow multiple devices to all be connected to a hotspot. We run this while driving and stream our music on Pandora or Spotity the whole time. Doesn't need 120v to run anything. Please understand that this configuration is suggesting you buy their cheapest phone (get a new phone number for it) and leave it running constantly as your internet service.

2) The service is called Visible (now there is Yahoo, also owned by Verizon and appears to be exactly the same service). It is owned by Verizon and using their towers. Though unlimited internet, the speed fluctuates depending on area or time of day. Some have been using it for a long time and have enough speed to stream TV almost all the time. Others have used it in different areas at different times and NOT had enough speed. If you are looking at this as a permanent solution for your home or stationary RV, there is no way to tell if it will be good in your exact position, but the cost to try is fairly low.

3) If this solution is not the best setup for you, feel free to search for other threads on IRV2 that discuss higher cost and different configuration options. Search for "load balancing" or "high availability" or "redundancy". Plenty of other options. You can still add Visible to those other options. This thread configuration is not about those variations. Many use this setup to stream Netflix or Hulu and can do so all month long without worrying about limits. PLEASE...read and understand the disclaimers on the post #10 doc before you move forward.

4) Many have had a good and bad experiences using it around the country:
Rough start, but now glad
Followed POST #10 and went well
Setup and running in 30 minutes

Porting problems
Not good service
Not great speeds
Great Speeds

5) Visible doesn't ship to PO Boxes

6) There was a 5Mb download limit, but that was removed. Some experience very high speeds at times. Others stay lower. Most (but not all) seem to be able to stream most of the time (which is the main purpose of unlimited internet for most). Some getting very high speeds. Page 15.

7) Some long ago had problems porting their phone number, but I haven't seen that post in a long time. I switched my neighbor over to Visible just to get a new phone, and it took PagePlus 10 days just to release her number so Visible could activate it. Could be a problem with your previous carrier as well as Visible.
Port Problem

8) Like any cellular service, some get bad support or service. Others had great support and service. Their tech support is only through a chat....no phone to call. Again, reduce your odds of needing to use their support by following the doc on post #10

9) At this time, you can only have one phone and service per account. Little pain in the butt. I opted to create 4 accounts for 4 phones using different emails and payment methods. Not ideal, but I created my own Party Pay. $25/line/month=$100/month for 4 phones each with unlimited data. Phone for me, my wife, full-time internet, and my daughter.

10) This is not a super high-speed service. Many have compared and contrasted the speed using a standard Verizon or AT&T network. This option will most often be slower. Sometimes much slower. If having the highest speed possible is your need, see the header at the top about searching for other threads to help you get what you need.

11) There are discussions about using the SIM chip in Jetpack or other mifi devices. Some worked. Some worked for a time. Seems like some have been using it for a long time. No clarity or certainty. You can try. Just first need to activate their SIM using their App on phones that work with their app. Not all phone are compatible...which is why the instructions on post #10 are suggesting you just get their cheapest phone and not worry about compatibility and avoid tech support.
Pepwave
Jetpack
Getting JetPack to work
Then more to get it to work
Some stopped working

12) Some discussion about the WeBoost signal amplifier to increase your cellular range around page 13-15 (BTW...don't purchase the WeBoost unless signal strength is a common problem for you…adds a lot more work and expense)

So, the skinny....service is great for some and working to their needs and downloading 150-280 GIGs!!!!! a month. Others tried for a short while and could never get acceptable speeds.

Following the instructions on post #10 , most everyone (if they purchased the recommended equipment and followed the instruction) found it easy enough that they didn't need outside help. Some (even myself at times) have had issues with their support chat. Some loved it. Some were ready to kill. I would continue to recommend doing post #10 exactly so you take the cleanest route and most likely won't need their support. Any variation could force you to use their support chat. Hit or miss. Often people try to save $6 and not get a new 12V USB power adapter and then waste a lot of time wondering why it doesn't all work….hint, the power supply you have is not giving you 2.4A output….REQUIRED for the setup.

Some have tried variations. If you live on the internet 24/7 and require high availability all the time, try looking up user "DocJ" and send him a private message. He has options for those that need load-balancing or redundancy. This option and thread is not that. This is a simple option for those that aren't bothered by slower speeds at times but really benefit from a lower monthly cost all the time and want the option of streaming as much as they like, and don't want to try to buy various pieces of random equipment to build a system they don't understand. post #10 is doing that for you and saving you the trouble.

I should mention lastly that if you only need to connect up a single device (only a TV or only a computer….not both at the same time), you could skip everything on post #10 and just buy a phone from Visible for cheap. All of their phones have the HOTSPOT available for at least single connection by default….which is nice since most other providers want more money just to turn that on.

In the end, please read slowly and carefully the attached doc on post #10. If it doesn't seem right for you, I will encourage you to continue the search on IRV2 for other options. This thread is already too long to start new ideas or configurations. If you have an experience to post or questions on the configuration of post #10 , please continue to use this thread as many are still following and glad to help you with the configuration on post #10.
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This horse has been beaten to death more times than I can count. Start at Page #1, read until you find the answer to your questions. They're in there somewhere.
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Now that visible has announced 5g support. What phone or hotspot should I get?
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:08 AM   #1506
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Considering Verizon's limited areas covered by there 5g I wouldn't spend the money for a 5g phone right now. If you look at their map of coverage you'll see they are only in urban areas where I doubt you'll be seeing many RV's.
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Joe, I understand your thinking, but since I just got this iPhone 12, I've had a significant improvement in download speeds. I first slipped a Visible sim into it and drove around Dallas, getting up close to 200 mbps, depending on which tower it locked onto. Never got that kind of speed out of VZ. Then I signed up with AT&T and my speeds here at the house are up over 50% versus Verizon. I have heard from others that the new 5G phone capabilities increased their speeds, even when using LTE 4G towers. AT&T advertises my area and a LOT of the region as having 5G, but my understanding is a lot of it is simply a "tweaking" of the old 4G service to obtain higher speeds. I gotta admit, this has overwhelmed me and I am really enjoying the improved performance of this phone. Makes me want to get into the motorhome and go traveling, just to see what it'll do as far as streaming goes.
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Considering Verizon's limited areas covered by there 5g I wouldn't spend the money for a 5g phone right now. If you look at their map of coverage you'll see they are only in urban areas where I doubt you'll be seeing many RV's.

If you’re talking mmave, then I agree with you. But for sub-6, that’s everywhere. It should initially be less crowded than LTE.
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If you’re talking mmave, then I agree with you. But for sub-6, that’s everywhere. It should initially be less crowded than LTE.
Actually, sub-6 will be in lots of places (I'm not so sure about everywhere) eventually but not necessarily now!

Sub-6 is part of the Diversified Spectrum Strategy (DSS) announced by Verizon last month. I have a 5G phone capable of both sub-6 and mmwave and it hasn't seen either of those in the area where I live in coastal TX.
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Now that visible has announced 5g support. What phone or hotspot should I get?
After everyone get's done debating the 5g vs 4g and all of that I hope to get a recommendation on a phone as well from someone smarter than me.
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After everyone get's done debating the 5g vs 4g and all of that I hope to get a recommendation on a phone as well from someone smarter than me.
My Blade 10 phone is used 99% of the time just as a phone. It was like $50 after the Visible rebate and I'm satasified with it. Two friends got the cheapest Blade phone to use just for data and streaming. Both are working well for that. In the past, I've used Samsung phones and if I was looking to spend some larger bucks, that's the route I'd go. It all depends on your application. The cheap phone seems to thether just fine, if that's all you're looking for.
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As I understand it the less expensive older phones don't have MIMO which would affect your hotspot or phone data speeds. Newer phones would have MIMO. We got a Moto G7 from Visible and it does not have MIMO. Just something to look into before you buy?
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