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Old 04-08-2021, 06:56 AM   #1
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Demand for hardwire ethernet

The DW and I decided to open a spot on our 50 acres for people to boondock. I am wiring hardwire ethernet to the barn and from there will put a 2.4/5 wifi access point. The access will not utilize our LAN for the house, but will use our gigabit class service. Plenty to share. (Separate SSID and password.)

With 5g wifi, speeds of several hundred megabits per second are easy. However, I understand that some people like wired, or perhaps their employers do. It would be real easy to put a RJ-45 ethernet connection on the outside of the bard, where they might hook up for water and power.

However, as best I can determine, virtually no one uses hardwire ethernet. After all, a couple hundred megabits per second is just fine for everyone to stream several concurrent movies via Netflix.

So before I drop the idea of a RJ-45 hardwire connection, I thought I would at least see if there is anyone out there who relies on that type of connection, or is truly high speed wifi just good enough.

So if you care, just say so.

And if you are wondering, no I will not provide cable or telephone. Can't share what I don't have.
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:05 AM   #2
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The last 3 years I worked I traveled and had to rely on wireless connections. Rarely would there be an ethernet connection available at the locations I visited. Never had a problem with connectivity.

I would set up a good WiFi system and leave it at that.

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Old 04-08-2021, 07:13 AM   #3
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About the only wired internet I’ve ever encountered at an RV park was courtesy of a cable TV system or a telephone line (cable internet/DSL). Neither of which apply to your situation.

Which is also no doubt why almost no RVers would be configured for using Ethernet cable service.

A very few specific boondockers may find that option interesting the vast majority would say, “What’s Ethernet?”
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:28 AM   #4
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While I still use a hardwire ethernet here at the house I almost never find it available when traveling. Any employer that is concerned about the use of public wi-fi by their employees should be providing a VPN service for them to use. If the employer doesn't provide one there are numerous other VPN services available that can be used - often times bundled with personal computer security software. I agree with others - provide the password-protected wi-fi service and skip the hardwire.
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:36 AM   #5
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Nope, ethernet is pretty much dead, even in much of the corporate world. Any company that hasn't learned how to deal with a world without ethernet over the last year or so isn't living in the real world. I worked for a Federal agency and used my home wifi to connect. If they can live with it just about any other entity should be able to. Save your money and buy your wife a couple of nice dinners.
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:38 AM   #6
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Just for fun, I ran three speed tests on my work computer (at home). Wired ethernet, which is my default when my notebook workstation is at my desk, scored around 95 Mbps. 2.4G scored just a hair lower, and 5G shot up to 230 Mbps. That's with the cable company's wireless router located a floor above with a wall in the way, and about 20 ft or so away horizontally.

I only use the wired because it's already there from earlier desktop machines, and to keep wireless use down for others in the house, who use Teams and other programs to teach and/or run meetings.

At this point, other than potential radio interference, I can't see a reason to even bother with wired, and in the case of my van, I don't even know how I would connect, or to what. There's an ethernet/wifi router in there for monitoring the Xantrex inverter/charger, but I'd have to retask it to external ethernet input to get wireless to my computer (or wired) and phones/tablets. If decent wifi was available from the RV park, I'd just use that directly.

It doesn't even take all that much bandwidth to stream a movie at normal 'high def'. Don't know about 4k.
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:46 AM   #7
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Just about nobody uses ethernet cables any more. The vast majority of RVers don't even have one on their RV other than whatever was factory installed. The only thing I use hardwire for is to connect my TV's in my S&B home. The computers, even at home, are all on wi-fi. Many people use the terms Wi-Fi and internet interchangeably.

Go with Wi-Fi only. If I were visiting someone, I'd be thrilled to have that.
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Old 04-08-2021, 08:50 AM   #8
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if there were ethernet connections at RV parks we would use them. at our home i have installed a hardwired ethernet network to each room. more secure. we use our home wifi only for our phones and tablets.
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Old 04-08-2021, 08:59 AM   #9
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What sort of ISP service are you going to use?

To maybe state the obvious, whatever speed you get over wired or Wi-Fi is potentially limited by the speed of the service you're connecting to. It's only as fast as the slowest part.

Sorry, I just read your first paragraph again. It sounds like you have the necessary bandwidth.

Where are you running this "hard wired ethernet" from to the barn? I'm no electrician but I think you need to be careful running copper lines between buildings. It depends on the electrical setup but you can unintentionally create ground current loops etc which are dangerous. You also need to do it right in terms of lightning protection.

You might know all this but running a piece of ethernet between buildings sounds like a simple thing but if lightning strikes and it all goes up in flames and fire inspectors find some non-compliant wiring or grounding then insurance might not pay out.

To the broader question, I doubt if it's worth the trouble. I would also question if the cable is really more secure than Wi-Fi, assuming you have WPA2 encryption turned on for the Wi-Fi. All the LAN traffic is encrypted then.

I guess it depends on what sort of customers you expect. Most probably don't care about super fast speeds.
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Old 04-09-2021, 12:04 AM   #10
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Okay, I have heard enough! I will simply offer Wi-Fi. This isn't really for customers, it's for friends and others who might use my site but will not pay anything.

Hard wire ethernet to the barn is already in place, and supports the Wi-Fi. The issue was should I go to the trouble of putting a jack for a hardware connection. The answer is I hear it is no.

With respect to lightning protection, seeing as the barn is a metal structure, and the ethernet is buried going to it, and I have suppression devices, I'm not worried about it with respect to the barn, and the house. But I would be worried about it between the barn and an RV. And I am happy to give up that worry and simply stick with Wi-Fi.

Thanks everyone for sharing your experience and observations.
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Nope. Wired connection not needed. Just ensure robust wireless coverage and proper channelization.
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