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Old 07-25-2021, 08:23 AM   #1
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Directv No HD With New Wireless Genie

I have an older Winegard Travel'er LG2112. I recently upgraded my DTV components to wireless Genie so that I could get HD in the coach. Being a 2004 all the connections were analog. When camping the dish captured all three satellites according to the control box and I received the SD channels but no HD. I went thru satellite setup again and it showed only the 101 had good signal strength but zero on the 99 and 103. There was just a fraction on a couple of transponders of the 103 but very little. There were some trees off in the distance on the azimuth of the the dish but the Winegard controller showed lock on all three satellites. Did I have this hooked up correctly or were the trees blocking the 99 and 103? The system works great in the S&B but I couldn't get HD at this particular campground the first time I connected it up in the coach.
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You said that your Travler was "older". If it isn't a SWM unit, you will need to add a SWM switch and power inserter to your system.
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I have a SWIM connected to it. Wiring is as follows:

Coax from Travel'r to SWIM antenna connection
SWIM IRD out to DTV 2 way splitter
DTV splitter to Video Bridge
DTV splitter to HR-44

I got all channels in SD only. HD channels showed on the guide but when selected it said HD not available, watch in low resolution?
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So it sounds like you are using a SWM 8 (16) multiswitch. If I recall correctly, all 4 cables from the Travler must be connected to the SWM switch. It sounds like you only have one connected.

https://www.weaknees.com/pdf/swm-ref-guide.pdf
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So it sounds like you are using a SWM 8 (16) multiswitch. If I recall correctly, all 4 cables from the Travler must be connected to the SWM switch. It sounds like you only have one connected.

https://www.weaknees.com/pdf/swm-ref-guide.pdf
Thank you. I will check. Is the multiswitch on the base of the turret?
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It can be inside or outside, but it won't be mounted to the turret.
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No multiswitch on mine. Direct coax from the dish to the A/V cabinet. SWM3 setup.
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You say all your connections to the tv's is analog. Does that mean that the connection between the Genie and the tv is not via an HDMI cable? Do your tv's have an HDMI connection port? If no to either question you will only get SD on your tv's. You may need to buy new hi-def tv's to get a HD picture.
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The reason for going wireless was because there was no HDMI cable in the coach. Now the clients are connect to the TV’s via HDMI. Look at my original post where I describe the lash up. I get HD OTA from the RAZAR antenna so that isn’t the problem.
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I have a SWIM connected to it. Wiring is as follows:

Coax from Travel'r to SWIM antenna connection
SWIM IRD out to DTV 2 way splitter
DTV splitter to Video Bridge
DTV splitter to HR-44

I got all channels in SD only. HD channels showed on the guide but when selected it said HD not available, watch in low resolution?
Please look at page 3 of this document. In order to get HD it is essential that you have four coax connections from the base of the Trav'ler to the SWM switch: https://docplayer.net/23804085-Guide...-antennas.html
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docj, I think we've found the problems. Here are pictures of my turret connections. It appears that when the Trav'ler was installed it was set up for only the 101. So, what do I need to do to get it wired for the other satellites? Pics below:
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However, from the Winegard Installation Manual, Rev 6, it shows a single coax cable from port C on the turret to the power inserter in the coach without a multiswitch. This is how my coach is lashed up. So now I'm really confused.
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However, from the Winegard Installation Manual, Rev 6, it shows a single coax cable from port C on the turret to the power inserter in the coach without a multiswitch. This is how my coach is lashed up. So now I'm really confused.
Are you sure that the version of the installation guide you are using is for a non-SWM Trav'ler? The SWM version installs with a single coax, but I don't think the non-SWM version can be installed that way.

I'm wondering if the version of the Trav'ler you have is the one that only received 101, 110 and 119 which would mean that you would only receive SD channels, at least until such time as DirecTV re-programs the 101 bird. That could explain a lot about why it was wired the way it was. It also would mean that you will never be able to receive the HD broadcasts from 99 and 103. When I had my Trav'ler installed in 2000 I was give the choice of the Sk3005 or the one that only received SD. AT that time HD programming was still sort of new and I almost went for the less expensive SD version.
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I believe this unit is a SWM3 unit. It uses a power injector and the LNB, while the label is difficult to read says SWM with some numbers. The PO had it installed around 2014-2016 timeframe. I've not tried it other than the one time at this campground in VA and there might have been some LOS obstruction. What threw me was that the Trav'ler control box showed it to be locked on the 101, 99, and 103 but I had no signal strength on the 99 and 25% on a couple of transponders on the 103.
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