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Old 02-26-2021, 08:28 AM   #1
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DirecTV sold by AT&T to private equity firm

AT&T sold off a 30% stake in DirecTV to private equity firm TPG it was announced today. AT&T will retain a 70% stake in the business and will be jointly run by the new partners in a new entity.

You that follow the industry, what do you think may be some of the new directions this new entity may take DirecTV?

I have stuck with them because of their grouping of their standard definition channels on one satellite so that I can continue to use my small dish automatic search rooftop dome and not have to buy a multi LNB dish for the roof. That option may go away if they drive subscribers to high def and take away options for standard def.
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I would not get too freaked out, the spin-off will have about 17 million customers and 28 billion in annual revenue. It will continue for many years to come, likely with number of customers declining each year.

The new companies major problem is the huge amount of debt it carries. ATT is taking almost 8 billion cash out of the entity in return for giving up 30% of the business to TPG, further increasing the new entity's debt load. If interest rates stay low, they should be OK.

It will be tough for them to increase prices without increasing the rate at which they lose customers. I expect they will do a lot of cost cutting in the next 12 months.
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It will be tough for them to increase prices without increasing the rate at which they lose customers. I expect they will do a lot of cost cutting in the next 12 months.
I wonder if the cost-cutting will be in the area of AT&T's award winning customer service!
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Old 02-26-2021, 02:42 PM   #4
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I switched from DirecTV to Dish because it was more difficult to get HD service from DirecTV at the time with that automatic portable dishes.

I also like that my RV is just like another $7 over the cost of having it in my house.
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expect less, sure u wont be disappointed
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The new management team needs to find a way to make satellite TV relevant again! Maybe starting up a partnership with Starlink to bundle TV and internet together, and make it a valuable service to rural customers and RV'ers. Fixing the customer service problems and making the new company a great experience will go along way!
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The new management team needs to find a way to make satellite TV relevant again! Maybe starting up a partnership with Starlink to bundle TV and internet together, and make it a valuable service to rural customers and RV'ers. Fixing the customer service problems and making the new company a great experience will go along way!
With all due respect, this makes no sense. If you have internet access provided by satellite, why would you want a separate TV service also provided by satellite? Starlink will provide you all the TV you could possibly want.

In fact, your suggestion clearly illustrates why satellite TV has become a dying technology. It was essentially a pre-internet (1990's) technology for distribution of TV signals. With the wide-spread availability of relatively low-cost internet access, it's basis of existence no longer exists.
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:16 AM   #8
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I was one of the first Direct TV subscribers back in 1995
I quit many yrs ago when they cranked the price to watch TV up to $125/month
I use a OTA antenna and get 23 free channels, add all the free streaming, Netflix and Amazon Prime. I’m good. Oh, we add MLB every year too. Worth every penny to us.
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I have DishTV for several reasons. I live in Nevada and I watch a lot of Big10 sports on Big10 network, Fox, FS1, FS2 and ESPN channels. I can use the same TV package in my house as my trailer. We astronomy camp away from all light pollution when possible. This is often where cellular service is not available. We don't usually camp under trees because we want to see the stars so the DishTV is easy to setup. We also keep the DishTV setup for the trailer connected at home and regularly record a lot of movies so we can watch them on the DVR when camping in the future.

I know eventually Sat TV may go away once there is enough satellite IP service available. Until then we will pay for DishTV. I pay $127 for the Hopper 3, 2 additional Joey receivers in the house and the Wally/USB DVR in the trailer.

If you look at maps showing US light pollution and cellular coverage maps you will set all the large areas dark places in the Great Basin. It's dark because of no water, people, or reason to put up a cell tower. Great for astronomy, lousy for cellular service.
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If you look at maps showing US light pollution and cellular coverage maps you will set all the large areas dark places in the Great Basin. It's dark because of no water, people, or reason to put up a cell tower. Great for astronomy, lousy for cellular service.

Once Starlink stops geofencing its users, the business basis for satellite TV will totally disappear for RVers.

But that might not matter since a Starlink nationwide rollout later this year will pull the rug out from under the much larger, non-mobile satellite TV customer base. Why pay >$100/mo for satellite TV when for $100/mo you can get TV and internet? Both DTV and Dish could find themselves losing customers at an increasing rate once this happens. At some point the customer base becomes too small to profitably support the enterprise.
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To be fair. Internet access doesn't get me Big10, ESPN, Fox channels without a additional streaming package so it would be more than $100 total.

I will continue to pay for cellular service with internet because it works fine where cellular exists even if I had a Starlink package.

Live sports is the only live TV I watch. I DVR or stream everything else.

I use the Dish Anywhere app to stream my Hopper 3 connections anywhere I have decent Internet access.
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Starlink will provide you all the TV you could possibly want.
Not possible. In crowded areas the bandwidth is not present. In rural areas it will be better but still limited.

All I have read about Starlink, folks are giving it much more capability than even Elon Musk says it can provide.

I hope Starlink out performs company projections. Perhaps some sandbagging is going on.

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Not possible. In crowded areas the bandwidth is not present. In rural areas it will be better but still limited.
In areas where there is cellular service there would be no need for Starlink, but in rural areas where there is little or no cellular whatever Starlink provides will be great.
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Starlink will provide you all the TV you could possibly want.

In areas where there is cellular service there would be no need for Starlink, but in rural areas where there is little or no cellular whatever Starlink provides will be great.
Changing the subject from Starlink hosting "all the TV you could possibly want" to cellular/Starlink selection.

I can think of several reasons to use StarLink while in a area with good cellular coverage.
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