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Old 07-01-2020, 05:53 PM   #1
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King Tailgater vs Dish Tailgater

Are these 2 the same thing?
If not, what's the difference.

I want to be able to have satellite TV going to 2 different TVs at the same time, showing 2 different channels.

Which models will allow this? It looks like I will be limited to either the Wally receiver or a few of the VIP211 model receivers.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:45 PM   #2
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... It looks like I will be limited to either the Wally receiver or a few of the VIP211 model receivers.
If I have to use 1 of these receivers, that's fine.

My main concern is which satellite receiver allows you to watch 2 different programs on 2 different TVs at the same time.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:59 PM   #3
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2 receivers does not work like they claim. Sure, set main tv to a satilite , then watch 2nd reciever on same sat but if you change channel and sat, 2nd reciever won't follow, it needs complete rescan. I have tried new receivers, hours on the phone with Dish. I can even manually set the 2nd reciever to the new Sat, get good tone & it reverts back. Main reciever works like a dream
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King will support 2 televisions but check it out first we ended up using only 1 tv and use the wally if they set unused for a while they are a pain to restart usually have to call dish for assistance.
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Get the Dish Playmaker for 1 receiver and Dish Playmaker for 2 receivers, it's the latest technology. Finds the sats much faster and will move between sats when you change to a channel that is on a different sat faster.
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King Tailgater vs Dish Tailgater

Both are designed to pick up the Dish satellites. Neither will let you watch two different programs at the same time unless both programs are on the same satellite. The Playmaker or Pathway is probably a better option
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Old 07-01-2020, 09:18 PM   #7
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Get the Dish Playmaker for 1 receiver and Dish Playmaker for 2 receivers ...
I don't understand.
It sounds like you're saying the same thing twice.
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Both are designed to pick up the Dish satellites. Neither will let you watch two different programs at the same time unless both programs are on the same satellite. The Playmaker or Pathway is probably a better option
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...Neither will let you watch two different programs at the same time unless both programs are on the same satellite...
By "on the same satellite", do you mean both TVs watching 110 at the same time? Or, both watching 119 at the same time? Or, even watching 129 at the same time?

Or, do you mean that both TVs just have to both be watching the EAST satellite at the same time, or both TVs be watching the WEST satellite at the same time?

I'm not trying to make this a complicated issue. I just don't want to buy equipment that won't do what I am trying to do.
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The antenna will lock on to one satellite, 110,119 or 129. These are the Western arc satellites. The Eastern are 61.5, 727.7 and 77. The Western arc is good for most of the US. You can watch separate programs if the are being broadcast from the same satellite. 129 has most of the HD programming. You will need a separate receiver for each TV. The Wally is the current one. Just make sure that which ever antenna you get that it is the model that has dual outputs, they make both a single and dual out on some antennas.
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If you want to be able to watch a channel on one TV and *any* other channel on the 2nd TV with no restrictions then you need an open faced dish. Either a Traveler (automatic roof mounted) or a regular dish like you would mount on a roof, attached to a tripod or other mount (manual, meaning you have manually to aim it every time you set it up).

None of the automatic done dishes will do what you want without restrictions. They all have one LNB and can only see one satellite at a time. As long as both TVs want to watch a channel that is broadcast on the same satellite as the main tv is watching, a dome (tailgater, playmaker, pathway) will work.
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So, the domed dish, aimed westerly, sees 110, 119 & 129.

Is it possible for 1 TV to watch a program on 110 & the 2nd TV to watch a program on either 119 or 129?

Or, do both TVs have to be watching something that's on 110, 119 or 129, even though both shows are on different channels?
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So, the domed dish, aimed westerly, sees 110, 119 & 129.

Is it possible for 1 TV to watch a program on 110 & the 2nd TV to watch a program on either 119 or 129?

Or, do both TVs have to be watching something that's on 110, 119 or 129, even though both shows are on different channels?
The dome can only see 1 satellite at a time. Even the ones with 2 cable connectors.

It sees 110 OR 119 OR 129. It does not see all 3 at the same time.

Both TV's need to watch programming on ONE satellite.
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And Dish doesnít make it easy to know what is broadcast on what satellite.

The 211 receivers used to tell you on the Info page (not sure if they still do). The Wally receiver doesnít show this.

There use to be a page that was kept updated at the satellite guys website but it isnít maintained any longer.

On the Wally you can go to the diagnostics screen and see what satellite the tuner is pointing to (where you see the signal strength).

The nice thing about the Wally and an
Open faced dish is that your Wally suddenly has two tuners and can watch one and record a 2nd channel. The dome dishes wonít do this.
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:17 AM   #14
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Well, y'all have surely helped me make up my mind.

I decided not to go with a domed antenna. I decided to go with two VIP211z receivers, instead of the Wally. (I've read good reviews & bad reviews for both the VIP211z & the Wally.)

I'll report on the VIP211z receivers once I've had a chance to run them for a while.

And, I plan on running the Dish 1000 2 antenna, with the 3 LNBs.

If I'm making a mistake on any of this, I'll know soon enough.

Thank you, everyone.
Y'all gave me plenty of insight.
I really appreciate it.
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