MOFI4500 or WE826-T2 4G LTE WiFi Router

[Mermaid3193]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Just to clarify the external antennas are of no benefit when connecting to the router through the USB WAN port?

External antennas connected to the router would bring the cell signal into the cell modem inside the router. A SIM card would be needed so the modem would work. Then the modem would transfer the signal into a form the router could use and distribute.

Alternatively, the cell signal comes in from a cell phone tethered via usb port on the router. Then the router transfers the signal into a form the router can use and distribute. In this instance the signal bypasses the modem in the router (if router has a cell signal modem).

The cell radio signal is bi-directional and sometimes is using multiple bands for upload and download dependent on how the cell company has their signal bands configured and the ability of the device (cell modem or cell phone) to see and use multiple frequencies/signals at the same time. Cell signal infrastructure now is moving toward sharing of towers and carrier frequency aggreation.
https://youtu.be/SCbN1DgF60g
https://www.towerleases.com/cell-pho...rriers-towers/

Soon there will be another option for celluar data signal:
https://www.sciencealert.com/spacex-...ink-satellites

[Mermaid3193]

Originally Posted by boyland

i have tried both external antenna and weboost as well as multiple other brands.

Weboost has consistently out performed all the others but a significant portion.

I saw that video sometime back and replicated the testing they were attempting it might work for them on a clear area like water but in the woods obstructions my experience has been weboost wins

We live in the woods and I have figured out lower Hz (lower frequency) radio cell signal travels better through woods. 5G sounds great but it probably won't work for us unless we were traveling in a town that offers it.

Trying to understand WeBoost better data throughput porformance. Any insight?

[LarryJB]

Originally Posted by Mermaid3193

We live in the woods and I have figured out lower Hz (lower frequency) radio cell signal travels better through woods. 5G sounds great but it probably won't work for us unless we were traveling in a town that offers it.

Trying to understand WeBoost better data throughput porformance. Any insight?

Just to be clear, the 5Ghz wifi band is NOT the new 5G cell technology that has been in the news lately. None of the cell modems being discussed here are capable of using the new 5G networks. What is being discussed is the 5Ghz wifi band that is common to many wifi routers used to communicate with local devices such as computers, smart TVs and streaming devices such as ROKUs.

[Mermaid3193]

Originally Posted by LarryJB

Just to be clear, the 5Ghz wifi band is NOT the new 5G cell technology that has been in the news lately. None of the cell modems being discussed here are capable of using the new 5G networks. What is being discussed is the 5Ghz wifi band that is common to many wifi routers used to communicate with local devices such as computers, smart TVs and streaming devices such as ROKUs.

Thank you for clarifying, I see my error. Some cell 5G NR will be at lower MHz frequency which should travel further through wooded areas.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell...cies_in_the_US
The cell phone 5G NR bands, will be implimented in future modem/routers and cell phones. We would like to select our external antennas to include as many bands as possible while still getting a high gain. Technology is changing so fast, future proofing is one of the things we are considering.

[Reggart]

Originally Posted by az99

What did you find out about this setup?

I reached out to their techs but no response. I'm not going to spend that much money on a modem until I know more about how to make it work from a technical perspective.

[az99]

Originally Posted by Reggart

I reached out to their techs but no response. I'm not going to spend that much money on a modem until I know more about how to make it work from a technical perspective.

To play with it a bit I bought this router-https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GBXMBQF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is OpenWRT and dual band with USB. Nice portable.
So I loaded the Rooter firmware to try it using my phone as the USB modem. It does not affect the APN or TTL. So the modem of the other units discussed in this thread must tie to the router differently than the USB does. The manual does lead me to believe that a USB modem will act differently than a tethered phone. I may try one as this router is much better than the KuWfi I had.

[boyland]

Originally Posted by Mermaid3193

We live in the woods and I have figured out lower Hz (lower frequency) radio cell signal travels better through woods. 5G sounds great but it probably won't work for us unless we were traveling in a town that offers it.

Trying to understand WeBoost better data throughput porformance. Any insight?

I will do a write up on this and the surecall units i have experimented with.

Need to be at my laptop as it is somewhat complicated

[az99]

Not sure what is going on with KuWfi but I ordered the Cat 6 unit- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1. They advertise 3-5 day shipping.
After 11 days I contacted them and they said it would be another 15 days even though their tracking said it shipped. I cancelled it.
Ordered a Sierra Cat 6 and WE 3526 dual band router from LTE Fix. I will post back when I test it. Still less than Mofi and it's dual band.

[Mermaid3193]

Originally Posted by boyland

i have tried both external antenna and weboost as well as multiple other brands.

Weboost has consistently out performed all the others but a significant portion.

I saw that video sometime back and replicated the testing they were attempting it might work for them on a clear area like water but in the woods obstructions my experience has been weboost wins

Still trying to figure out if we want to get a WeBoost in addition to the 2 LTE directional external antennas mounted on a pole with the KiWFi Modem. Can you please help us? Was your testing with 1 antenna or 2 antennas placed at a 90 degree angle to each other?

[Mermaid3193]

Originally Posted by Mermaid3193

Found this ltefix.com fourm thread that says there maybe a problem with cell sim channel 4 and horribly slow wifi. It says there is a problem where wifi antenna frequency and one LTE frequency maybe canceling each other out. Called adjacent channel interference. They suggested using channel 11 for wifi. Here is a link to that fourm: https://ltehacks.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=1695#p1695

For wifi try mode N, Channel 11, 20MHz.

2.4 GHz Wi-Fi Channel Numbers
Wi-Fi equipment in the U.S. and North America features 11 channels on the 2.4 GHz band: Channel 1 operates at a center frequency of 2.412 GHz. Channel 11 operates at 2.462 GHz. Other channels operate at frequencies in between, evenly spaced at 5 MHz (0.005 GHz) intervals.

I talked to Mark Donovan, Chief Sales Engineering Specialist (803) 419-4702 at ZDA COMMUNICATIONS (Note: The purchase links on their website take you to a different site cause they have been hacked repeatedly by a company outside the USA. Call if you want to talk or purchase from them) and he said that the 2.4Ghz Band Wifi and the Cell Band 4 canceling sould be resolved with running the LTE antennas outside the RV.

[boyland]

Originally Posted by Mermaid3193

Still trying to figure out if we want to get a WeBoost in addition to the 2 LTE directional external antennas mounted on a pole with the KiWFi Modem. Can you please help us? Was your testing with 1 antenna or 2 antennas placed at a 90 degree angle to each other?

I only ever used the yagi style antenna single antenna.

I would consider dual if i had problems but honestly i doubt it gains much more.

[Mermaid3193]

Originally Posted by boyland

I only ever used the yagi style antenna single antenna.

I would consider dual if i had problems but honestly i doubt it gains much more.

To be sure I understand: You used a single directional yagi antenna with both your WeBoost and your Cell Modem Router and the WeBoost signal was stronger?

[boyland]

Originally Posted by Mermaid3193

To be sure I understand: You used a single directional yagi antenna with both your WeBoost and your Cell Modem Router and the WeBoost signal was stronger?

Correct i have found the weboost to be better in general.

I am sure there are circumstances where the other would be better but in my results i have seem weboost with single direction yagi to the best option.

Now i do want to add this most of my testing has been at my lake location with very limited signals and speeds from 1.5-8mb testing results the upload speeds generally are none to 1.5.

hope this helps

[az99]

Afer extremely disappointing results with a WE826 I purchased a WG3526 with a Sierra 7455 modem. It is a dual band router and a Cat 6 modem. Total cost under $250. What a difference. It is night and day in both the LTE reception and the dual band wifi output. Tested with ATT and Verizon.
Absolutey no comparison to the Kuwifi WE826. And still cheaper than the Mofi and it's dual band.