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07-21-2022, 11:41 AM
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Should be 1 fee for 1 password for 1 user at a time. If you have a dozen friends then you should have a dozen passwords and pay a dozen fees.
I don't understand why Netflix wants to complicate things based on location. Where I am has no impact on their cost to deliver.
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07-21-2022, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by F4Gary
I agree. That's called theft.
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Not sure if it's technically theft because people are simply sharing thier passwords but I guess it could be debated.
Anyway...Netflix should simply remove the option for multiple users and only allow one account streaming at one time. Easy Peasy...
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07-21-2022, 12:13 PM
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Location: Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homeby5
Not sure if it's technically theft because people are simply sharing thier passwords but I guess it could be debated.
Anyway...Netflix should simply remove the option for multiple users and only allow one account streaming at one time. Easy Peasy...
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The challenge with that is plan is the following. I am in the living room watching one show, my wife is in the bedroom watching her show and my 2 kids are in their rooms watching shows on their phones.
This is not an unrealistic scenario. That would mean paying $40-$80/month for that service. For most subscribers that would make it not worth it unless they have a major pricing structure change. Also that change/price has to fit inline with other services and have content people want to watch.
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07-21-2022, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Nwcid
The challenge with that is plan is the following. I am in the living room watching one show, my wife is in the bedroom watching her show and my 2 kids are in their rooms watching shows on their phones.
This is not an unrealistic scenario. That would mean paying $40-$80/month for that service. For most subscribers that would make it not worth it unless they have a major pricing structure change. Also that change/price has to fit inline with other services and have content people want to watch.
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I don't see the problem. If you want everyone in your family to have a phone, a car, or a TV you have to pay for each of them. If you want everyone in your family to have their own access to Netflix you should have to pay for each of them too. Seems very realistic to me. If you want to play you have to pay.
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07-21-2022, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hohenwald48
If you want everyone in your family to have their own access to Netflix you should have to pay for each of them too. Seems very realistic to me. If you want to play you have to pay.
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Netflix has chosen to do it differently. One PW for a household is what they want, not one PW per user. I think their market share would have been much lower otherwise. If I pay $10 per month for my entire household, it's trivial, and I keep it. If I have to pay that per user, no thanks.
So, they're trying for a balance between some hitchhiking users and mostly hitchhiking users. I can't see an easy way to program this, aside from simply saying there can only be two or three users logged on simultaneously. Once the paying user logs on and sees the message that he can't watch because too many others are using his PW, people will hesitate to hand out their PW.
(P.S. There are places on the internet where you can find tons of passwords and logon names for Netflix - people just share them out.)
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07-21-2022, 03:39 PM
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We have 7 TV's that I have set up to use Netfix on. There are 6 in the house and 1 in the RV. Everytime I set the TV up I get a notification from Netflix that I have to confirm the TV is ours. Not a big deal.
My wife watches Netflix programming quite a bit, I will watch something may every other month. Funny that they can have thousands of things available but nothing worth watching.
If the change the billing I'll cancel.
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07-21-2022, 05:48 PM
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Location: Washington
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Originally Posted by hohenwald48
I don't see the problem. If you want everyone in your family to have a phone, a car, or a TV you have to pay for each of them. If you want everyone in your family to have their own access to Netflix you should have to pay for each of them too. Seems very realistic to me. If you want to play you have to pay.
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I guess you missed my main point, "For most subscribers that would make it not worth it unless they have a major pricing structure change. Also that change/price has to fit inline with other services and have content people want to watch."
It was not about needing to pay for each one. It was about the cost vs value of each separate charge. Why would I pay $80/month, especially if I can get a better service from a competitor for less money? With current pricing, and charging individually I see even more people dropping the service, but maybe that is the goal.
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07-22-2022, 09:46 AM
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Let Netflix do whatever they want. The market place will decide if it's a good business decision.
There are a lot of options available. Market will decide if the price point is correct.
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07-22-2022, 10:36 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Bobby F
I'd guess that the Netflix subscribers quitting might be overblown a bit. They lost 700,000+ subscribers when they shut down Russian viewers. That didn't help their numbers at all.
As to what they're trying to accomplish - I have a nephew who gave away his password to probably 15 people, all of whom use it regularly without paying. He tells me this is common among younger people. He says he occasionally gets an error message saying that "too many users are logged in", but mostly he and his 15 friends have been watching Netflix for a few years with only one payment being made each month.
I can't blame Netflix for trying to limit this.
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True. As much as we like rooting for the underdog, Netflix is a corporation and corporate leadership is committed to maximizing the company's value to its shareholders. Otherwise, they could be personally sued and removed.
Now, as a business model, Netflix needs to deliver on its content for a price people are willing to pay. As price rises, demand will decrease. But less eyeballs mean less revenue. It's all about content consumption. So, they need to figure out where that sweet spot is.
Bottom line, there's going to come a price-point when I'm going to stop and decide if they're worth it. So far, they're above that floor. I have a feeling they're going to drop below it. There's that saying, if you're not growing, you're dying.
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07-22-2022, 12:18 PM
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I agree with the move to eliminate the theft of service and giving a buddy your login is theft unless your buddy never uses it. This has been a problem in software for years and I’m surprised it’s taken this long to root it out.
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07-22-2022, 03:50 PM
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It was limited to 3 screens at a time even in your own home, if not paying extra for 5. Loss couldn't be to 15 or more screaming services on the market. Some of these no longer sell some, any product or delayed to Netflix like Disney .
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I agree. That's called theft.
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07-22-2022, 04:40 PM
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Another chance for Neflix to raise prices again, which have nearly doubled since I started using their streaming service a decade or so ago. The problem is the content is declining more and more shows are moving to other streaming services, and there are only so many times you want to rewatch that same 25+ year old movie or TV series. Sure they have some good original content, but even most of that original content is just something to watch, not a must see show.
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07-22-2022, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wildtoad
I agree with the move to eliminate the theft of service and giving a buddy your login is theft unless your buddy never uses it. This has been a problem in software for years and I’m surprised it’s taken this long to root it out.
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I don’t follow this logic. Is it considered theft if I hand my car keys to another person to use the car I’m leasing, when I’m not using it? I’ve paid for the service/product.
Software is a product. Just like a candy bar. Hershey doesn’t tell me who I can share it with. Most people don’t share a candy bar because the perceived value is equal to the cost. Perhaps that’s the real problem with streaming services.
For the record, don’t use any streaming services video or audio. Tv and radio are free. Stuff behind paywalls can stay there.
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