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theoldwizard · 12-03-2022, 06:25 PM

This company has been around for a few years focusing on 4G/LTE for rural areas that had 4G reception. It seems like they are now focusing more on the mobil/RV market. They ride on either T-Mobil or Verizon networks. I am having problems finding specific information on their plans. Hee are the highlights.

$99 month
No contract
Buy their router for $99 or buy their SIM card for $29

Here is the sketchy part !

"Up to UNLIMITED DATA !"

What does that really mean ?

RV_Lee · 12-03-2022, 07:32 PM

Just upgrade your current data plan and tether off your phone (mobile hot spot), its the exact same thing. This only works with cell towers, if that wont work, get starlink or use both as most do.

Suburbazine · 12-03-2022, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by theoldwizard

This company has been around for a few years focusing on 4G/LTE for rural areas that had 4G reception. It seems like they are now focusing more on the mobil/RV market. They ride on either T-Mobil or Verizon networks. I am having problems finding specific information on their plans. Hee are the highlights.

$99 month
No contract
Buy their router for $99 or buy their SIM card for $29

Here is the sketchy part !

"Up to UNLIMITED DATA !"

What does that really mean ?

Well, just like the tablet plans they're reselling, there is a data cap on how unlimited is unlimited. Might be fast for 40GB then dialup speeds after that.

They can't give you numbers because that would expose the plans they're reselling. I doubt their plans are even close to unlimited, as well. Their own Terms contain conflicting language which is reason to not expect unlimited data:

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...Nomad Internet makes a best effort to provide unlimited data...
...Data limitations may vary based at the discretion of the providing network, and service may be subject to usage limits established by the Provider...
...Nomad Internet reserves the right to disconnect users for excessive or exorbitant usage...

theoldwizard · 12-04-2022, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RV_Lee

Just upgrade your current data plan and tether off your phone (mobile hot spot), its the exact same thing. This only works with cell towers, ...

True, but their router has connections for an external antenna which would work much better than the internal antenna of a cell phone !

theoldwizard · 12-04-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburbazine

They can't give you numbers because that would expose the plans they're reselling. I doubt their plans are even close to unlimited, as well. Their own Terms contain conflicting language which is reason to not expect unlimited data:

Mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) buy large "blocks" of data bandwidth. They negotiate restrictions with the carrier. The way they cut it and slice it, is up to them, NOT the original carrier !

creativepart · 12-04-2022, 04:55 PM

According to the folks at the www.rvmobileinternet.com (from the paying member only pages) they say they have had both good and bad reports about Nomad Internet over the years.

There are no guarantees which carrier plan you will get and they don't disclose that info. Also, as with most 3rd party resellers their plans are subject to disappearing without warning and that customer service has been very spotty.

I think for $99 a month you have other choices and those might be better.

tetranz · 12-04-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theoldwizard

Mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) buy large "blocks" of data bandwidth. They negotiate restrictions with the carrier. The way they cut it and slice it, is up to them, NOT the original carrier !

That's probably true but I don't think Nomad is an MVNO. I think they're a reseller which means that they're at quite a different level than true MVNOs like Cricket, Mint, Visible, Consumer Cellular etc. Resellers seem to be in a dubious gray area.

But ... that said, I just looked at their website for the first time in quite a while and they imply that they have some sort of new partnership with Verizon so, who knows, maybe they're worth a try. The iOS app looks like a new thing and a screenshot shows "Verizon partner program - member" which I don't think they could get away with if it wasn't for real.

I haven't heard much about them recently but they had a particularly bad reputation on a certain Reddit group but to give them the benefit of the doubt, it might just be that they're one of the biggest resellers and the unhappy customers are a vocal minority.

Suburbazine · 12-04-2022, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theoldwizard

Mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) buy large "blocks" of data bandwidth. They negotiate restrictions with the carrier. The way they cut it and slice it, is up to them, NOT the original carrier !

Nomad is not an MVNO nor do they have their own APN. It's very rare to find a reseller who is a true MVNO with their own APN (which means they have guaranteed bandwidth within agreed restrictions). In fact, the only one I know of is MobileMustHave (R300 plan only!), and they're EXPENSIVE compared to even the higher priced resellers.

Nomad's "partnership" with Verizon is a little misleading- they are a business partner, which to all purposes for Verizon means "Nomad Internet" has employees with a pool of business data. They're not permitted to repackage data or redesign plans outside of what Verizon offers directly. Basically, if it's not on Verizon's sales list, it can't be sold. And yes, if they were actual wireless agents for Verizon, they'd still be locked into the existing hotspot plans Verizon offers and none of which are unlimited.

tetranz · 12-06-2022, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburbazine

It's very rare to find a reseller who is a true MVNO with their own APN (which means they have guaranteed bandwidth within agreed restrictions). In fact, the only one I know of is MobileMustHave (R300 plan only!), and they're EXPENSIVE compared to even the higher priced resellers.

I don't know how much it matters but that plan doesn't have its own APN. It's still vzwinternet https://support.mobilemusthave.com/s...-(Verizon)-APN

Several others (Bix and TechnoRV) offer similar looking 300 GB plans on Verizon.

Suburbazine · 12-06-2022, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tetranz

I don't know how much it matters but that plan doesn't have its own APN. It's still vzwinternet https://support.mobilemusthave.com/s...-(Verizon)-APN

Several others (Bix and TechnoRV) offer similar looking 300 GB plans on Verizon.

MMH had and probably still has a B300 plan through AT&T with their own APN, it was a invite only thing though and I don't see it advertised on the website. I looked at R300 and thought it was the same plan.

tetranz · 12-13-2022, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburbazine

Nomad's "partnership" with Verizon is a little misleading- they are a business partner, which to all purposes for Verizon means "Nomad Internet" has employees with a pool of business data. They're not permitted to repackage data or redesign plans outside of what Verizon offers directly. Basically, if it's not on Verizon's sales list, it can't be sold. And yes, if they were actual wireless agents for Verizon, they'd still be locked into the existing hotspot plans Verizon offers and none of which are unlimited.

It looks like it's more than that. This is from the CEO a few days ago.

https://twitter.com/ceojadengarza/st...17806522961921

Further down there's a reply from Verizon Support.

Until we hear otherwise, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe this is the beginning of something new.

Suburbazine · 12-13-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tetranz

It looks like it's more than that. This is from the CEO a few days ago.

https://twitter.com/ceojadengarza/st...17806522961921

Further down there's a reply from Verizon Support.

Until we hear otherwise, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe this is the beginning of something new.

If you read that thread it looks like Nomad once again canned (conned?) all their customers. Nobody happy with it and it's not an exclusive plan. The jab at Elon is just an attempt for publicity and not based on fact, which is Verizon does not have the bandwidth needed to service rural communities if they switch to cellular internet.

tetranz · 12-13-2022, 02:41 PM

I guess we'll wait and see. I agree that the whole thread has a bit of an uncool, unprofessional feel to it which seems typical. Verizon will probably rein them in if they use their name in ways they shouldn't.

tetranz · 12-15-2022, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburbazine

If you read that thread it looks like Nomad once again canned (conned?) all their customers.

I guess you were right. This must have been there before, I just didn't see it.

Now the CEO's Twitter account has been suspended. That might be because of the "We're coming after you Elon" nonsense. Some people there were even replying to @ElonMusk which makes no sense.

Of course the ongoing problem is that there are very few genuine options for private consumers (i.e., non-business) in an RV or rural property who want lots of data at an affordable price.