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Old 03-28-2021, 07:01 AM   #1
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RV Wifi and 4G LTE Extender Antennas

Looking for a good antenna to provide good 4G LTE and Wifi to our devices. My wife would like to stream movies on TV too but I don't know if that is possible. I've looked at WeBoost Drive Reach and Winegard Connect 2.0 Wifi and 4G LTE antennas and don't know which is best. There may be more I am not aware of. We have Verizon Cell Service with unlimited Data and Messaging on our cell phones. Would love to hear your recommendation and capabilities your antenna provides. Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.
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I just posted another thread asking the same question about the winegard connect 2.0. So I'm curious like you what folks with experience on these models had to say and if they really make any difference for the hundreds that would be spent. So now we wait for some experience
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There are two problems involved in this usually. The first is reaching the tower to get connected to a 4G signal or a WiFi signal. For this, a rooftop antenna can make a difference.


The second problem is the capacity of the tower or WiFi signal once you get connected. It makes no difference how good your connection to the signal is if there is not enough bandwidth to serve all the people connected to it. The result will still be super slow service and a painful/tedious experience.


I was 'camping' behind an employer's property last year in upstate Wisconsin while I went through some training. The 4G signal was weak. I deployed my mast-mounted 4G external antenna and was able to make a great connection to the cell tower. It made zero difference - that one cell tower served so many people that even with a great connection it was useless for anything more than text messaging.


Best to figure out which problem you're trying to solve before you come up with a solution. If the problem is not being able to reach an otherwise-good signal, one of the rooftop antennas will be a great help. If the problem is trying to share an already-overloaded campground WiFi with a bunch of other campsites, probably not much.
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There are two problems involved in this usually. The first is reaching the tower to get connected to a 4G signal or a WiFi signal. For this, a rooftop antenna can make a difference.


The second problem is the capacity of the tower or WiFi signal once you get connected. It makes no difference how good your connection to the signal is if there is not enough bandwidth to serve all the people connected to it. The result will still be super slow service and a painful/tedious experience.


I was 'camping' behind an employer's property last year in upstate Wisconsin while I went through some training. The 4G signal was weak. I deployed my mast-mounted 4G external antenna and was able to make a great connection to the cell tower. It made zero difference - that one cell tower served so many people that even with a great connection it was useless for anything more than text messaging.


Best to figure out which problem you're trying to solve before you come up with a solution. If the problem is not being able to reach an otherwise-good signal, one of the rooftop antennas will be a great help. If the problem is trying to share an already-overloaded campground WiFi with a bunch of other campsites, probably not much.
So in other words, ful timers who roam around that never know the area of population vs the number of towers, its just a Crap shoot if it works or not.
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Generally speaking--if you can get a signal, a booster will help. Lots of variables.
Generally speaking--height of antenna usually will help, also lots of variables.
Google Technomadia for some good info on setups.
We use a WeBoostRV and get help with signal strength, but don't try to stream.
And, yes, if cell tower is overused, not much will help.
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I have the Winegard 2.0 4G LTE on my rig and agree with the above posters.....it's all about where you are in some cases. However I use a Verizon sim card that has 15G of hot spot data two Verizon cellphones with 30G each of Hotspot data. The nice thing with the setup is that I can use the dome to provide internet to the area in and around the coach utilizing the sim or the two phones. The other benefit is being able to switch the dome from 4G LTE to wifi only and it will reach out and grab the park wifi or any available wifi in the area. Lots of systems do this, so find the one you like and roll with it. But like others have said it can't grab if it isn't there.

PS.....lots of parks are finally upgrading their systems to support high usage due to loss of business because people are now looking for good wifi as part of their criteria for staying.
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So in other words, ful timers who roam around that never know the area of population vs the number of towers, its just a Crap shoot if it works or not.
Pretty much the situation for anyone that has to rely on someone else's WiFi or a cell signal, regardless of if you're a full timer or not.

Would a rooftop antenna help? Sure, in many situations. But not in all, like if the cell tower or WiFi is already overloaded and beyond capacity.

Best thing to do is research before you pick a place to spend time if you are not sure of the availability of 4G or WiFi.

Do I have an external antenna? For sure, I've actually got three (one for 4G, and two small dish antennas for WiFi - one for 2.4 and one for 5.0.) Do they guarantee that it won't be a crap shoot? Nope.
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So is the winegard connect 2.0 4g lte WiFi as a product no better or worse than most other devices out there. Is it worth $450 for unit and installation or is it just a gamble. I will be using my own WiFi hotspot and inserting sim card into winegard
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I have the Winegard 2.0 4G LTE on my rig and agree with the above posters.....it's all about where you are in some cases. However I use a Verizon sim card that has 15G of hot spot data two Verizon cellphones with 30G each of Hotspot data. The nice thing with the setup is that I can use the dome to provide internet to the area in and around the coach utilizing the sim or the two phones. The other benefit is being able to switch the dome from 4G LTE to wifi only and it will reach out and grab the park wifi or any available wifi in the area. Lots of systems do this, so find the one you like and roll with it. But like others have said it can't grab if it isn't there.

PS.....lots of parks are finally upgrading their systems to support high usage due to loss of business because people are now looking for good wifi as part of their criteria for staying.
Your device is the one I'm considering. I have a WiFi hotspot with one provider and phone service with another provider. I'm assuming that i put my sim card in the dome, Which will help my personnel WiFi, so how is my phone service on a different provider benefited?
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You should also be aware that cellular internet and local campground wifi are two different things. Even though both are radio waves carrying digital signals, the radios are different frequencies and the coding of the digital signal are as well. Therefore a cellular booster is different than a wifi booster, though I've heard of both packaged together in one unit. When you talk about a mobile hotspot, it's cellular internet coupled with a wifi hotspot that uses cellular to reach the internet.


Campground wifi (or other local wifi) has its own method of reaching the internet, e.g. cable or satellite or whatever. You face two potential problems: (1) getting a good connection to the local wifi router, and (2) getting a usable share of that routers internet bandwidth. Both can be problematic.


You may want a quality cellular radio booster like the Weboost for when you use your Verizon service and also an antenna or "wifi extender" to help with access to campground [or store or hotel] wifi systems.
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So is the winegard connect 2.0 4g lte WiFi as a product no better or worse than most other devices out there. Is it worth $450 for unit and installation or is it just a gamble. I will be using my own WiFi hotspot and inserting sim card into winegard
Whether or not one of these will help you is hard to say. My coach has a metal skin, so we've got quite a reduction of the signal coming through to the interior. Since our coach body acts as a big Faraday cage it's essential to have the external antenna to use either WiFi or 4G when we're inside the coach. Other coaches have virtually the same reception inside as outside, and for those people the advantage to an external antenna is better reception due to the antenna being up high and over nearby obstacles.

I believe that the unit you're looking at also has a 4G booster built in. If it does, that will help when the 4G signal is weak or you're a bit far from the tower. It won't help if the tower is overloaded, but it will help if the problem is just being too far for good reception.
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We use the WeBoost system. In several places since we purchased, May 2020, it has worked well and has helped. For example in Medina Lakes a couple across from us, both of us were under trees, was using the same setup, but their antenna was just sitting on their slide out, our antenna was up on our extended pole above the trees.
They came over and asked how our was working? After they seen the difference they went to Home Depot and picked up the $40 extend pole like what we use and were happy.
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Generally speaking--if you can get a signal, a booster will help. Lots of variables.
Generally speaking--height of antenna usually will help, also lots of variables.
Google Technomadia for some good info on setups.
We use a WeBoostRV and get help with signal strength, but don't try to stream.
And, yes, if cell tower is overused, not much will help.
With all due respect, I'll have to take issue with you on some of these points.

In today's cellular environment, amplification of signals isn't always the most important factor in getting a "better" signal. Like most digital systems, if you have a "strong enough" signal, making it stronger will have little impact.

Today, things like sophisticated MIMO antennas and more advanced modems can do a lot more for your signal than will an amplifier such as a WeBoost. In fact, the basic use of a WeBoost (or similar device) will negate the MIMO antennas built into most modern phones and hotspots.

The Winegard Connect 2.0 4G2+ discussed in this thread has a built-in 2x2 MIMO antenna but doesn't have any cellular amplification. But it only has a basic Category 4 modem which lacks any carrier aggregation capability. By comparison my new Inseego M2000 5G hotspot has 4x4 MIMO and a Category 22 modem with 6 level carrier aggregation capability.

Similarly, the popular Netgear Nighthawk M1 hotspot has a Category 16 modem and even my old Novatel 7730L has a Category 8 modem.

The bottom line is that you can get a pretty sophisticated hotspot for not all that much money; a lot less than you will pay for a high-end router. I got my M2000 for $7/mo when T-Mobile had them on an introductory special. Even off special I think it's only ~$14/mo.

I realize that this might sound like gobbledygook to many of you but this "stuff" really does matter with respect to getting a cellular signal fast and stable enough for you to stream video or run a business remotely.

IMHO the way to get a reliable cellular signal is to have reasonably decent equipment (but not, necessarily, the most expensive) combined with multiple cellular plans from several providers. I currently have contracts with all three major cellular companies. Not everyone will want to go that far, but IMO that's really the key to having reliable service.

I do second the recommendation that people who are just learning about all of this stuff spend some time getting familiar with the material Technomadia has posted on the Mobile Internet Resource Center website. It is accurate, well-written and unbiased. https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/
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You should also be aware that cellular internet and local campground wifi are two different things. Even though both are radio waves carrying digital signals, the radios are different frequencies and the coding of the digital signal are as well. Therefore a cellular booster is different than a wifi booster, though I've heard of both packaged together in one unit. When you talk about a mobile hotspot, it's cellular internet coupled with a wifi hotspot that uses cellular to reach the internet.


Campground wifi (or other local wifi) has its own method of reaching the internet, e.g. cable or satellite or whatever. You face two potential problems: (1) getting a good connection to the local wifi router, and (2) getting a usable share of that routers internet bandwidth. Both can be problematic.


You may want a quality cellular radio booster like the Weboost for when you use your Verizon service and also an antenna or "wifi extender" to help with access to campground [or store or hotel] wifi systems.
I honestly don't ever use the campground WiFi due to no protection and over saturation.
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