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Old 12-17-2008, 08:59 AM   #1
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Ok I know that when one is out of their area they usually cannot get local channels. But lets run this one up the pole one time and see what we can make of it.
I have a Winegard Road Trip SDI satellite dish. Which is the in-motion dome unit. Ok we are in Bouse, Az and I cannot get my local channels from Utah. But I had them when I was in Flagstaff north of here. Ok you say I am out of service area maybe. But my neighbor from back home who is here sitting next to me is using a standup dish and he is getting the home channels.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:59 AM   #2
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Ok I know that when one is out of their area they usually cannot get local channels. But lets run this one up the pole one time and see what we can make of it.
I have a Winegard Road Trip SDI satellite dish. Which is the in-motion dome unit. Ok we are in Bouse, Az and I cannot get my local channels from Utah. But I had them when I was in Flagstaff north of here. Ok you say I am out of service area maybe. But my neighbor from back home who is here sitting next to me is using a standup dish and he is getting the home channels.
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Old 12-17-2008, 09:19 AM   #3
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MtManLee:
Ok I know that when one is out of their area they usually cannot get local channels. But lets run this one up the pole one time and see what we can make of it.
I have a Winegard Road Trip SDI satellite dish. Which is the in-motion dome unit. Ok we are in Bouse, Az and I cannot get my local channels from Utah. But I had them when I was in Flagstaff north of here. Ok you say I am out of service area maybe. But my neighbor from back home who is here sitting next to me is using a standup dish and he is getting the home channels.
Any suggestions or ideas? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is your dish in a dome on the roof? Is your neighbor's dish a regular portable dish on a tripod?

If so, his dish is larger and can pick up signals that are too weak for your dish. You're probably pretty close to the edge of the footprint for your local channels and his dish is able to pick up the signal whereas yours can't.
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Yep thats sounds about right. His is the tripod mount and ours is the dome. Thanks for that info.
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Difference is probably caused by the difference in types of antenna between you and your neighbor. Your roof mounted dome is less effective than the tripod mounted antenna because of the difference in the size of the antenna (reflector), especially when you on the fringe of the spot-beam that is used for your local programing. If you were to look at the antenna (reflector) inside your dome it would probably have about 1/3 of the surface area than that of the tripod antenna. This is one of the drawbacks of a roof mounted antenna.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This is one of the drawbacks of a roof mounted antenna </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is not a drawback of a roof mounted system but rather a dome vs. open dish. There are several varieties of roof mounted open dish antennas and they would work exactly the same or better than a similar dish on a tripod.
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Bill what would I need to get to get an open dish. I already have a moto sat satellite dish. Would I be better to get the tv adapter to that or go ahead and just get a small automatic tv dish to replace the dome.
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If you mean that you already have a MotoSAT internet antenna then all you would need is the BOW option to pick up the standard definition programming from DirecTV and/or possibly Dish Network.
If you have a reason that you might want to also be able to receive the HDTV programming from either Dish or Direct then you will need to have a separate antenna to provide this option. Of course, you would also need to have HDTV's in the coach as well as update to the HD receivers from your service provider.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This is not a drawback of a roof mounted system but rather a dome vs. open dish. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for correcting me Bill, you said what I meant to say. Got rid of my roof mount dome for a roof mount open dish (MotoSat HD-3DP) couldn't be happier.

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Ive got direct tv already, have not gone to HDDTV cuz of the cost of the box and having to change my satellite anyway. And they say we already get hd tv with the satellite tv system so could not see a reason for changing. I thought about getting the bow for my satellite dish but the reason I didnt cuz if it goes down which it has three times in two years than not only be without internet but tv too so would rather have the ability to still have one or the other or both. So I guess my best bet is to look into an open satellite dish in place of my dome and get my dome removed. I imagine I can have it mounted where the dome is now? Being as how I understand that one can find just about anything in Quartzite when all the rv goodies sellers get here in January I guess I will look into the open dish.
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A separate TV antenna is always better than the BOW but a BOW is a much less expensive option. HOWEVER, there is no BOW if you want the HDTV programming. If you don't need HD then your dome should work fine as well.
If you are ready to change out your TV's to ones capable of displaying the HD signal and change your receivers to HD receivers then it would also make sense to update to an open face multi-LNB antenna. We will be in Quartzsite for the 2 weeks of the "RV Show" in January.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MtManLee:
And they say we already get hd tv with the satellite tv system so could not see a reason for changing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
There's a confusion in terms here...HD vs digital. While HD *is* digital, not all digital is HD.

Satellite TV is digital, but not necessarily HD unless you have an HD receiver and subscribe to HD programming (and, of course, have a dish that is capable of receiving HD signals).
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Ok so I am an old fogey and not real bright so someone needs to bring me up to snuff. I know what digital is, so what is HD and how or what is the difference here? What does it do to programing? I know I was told I would need to change my dish to get it cuz mine only has two lnb's I believe. Also I was told I would need to get new boxes from Directv and that is was something like 90 dollars more per month. So what is the advantage or disadvantage besides cost.
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If you are happy with your current DirecTV service then you do not need to do anything now or in the near future as the signal that you now receive from the satellite is digital and the DirecTV box converts this back to analog so you can view it on your current TV.
HD (High Definition) requires all new hardware including the TV, DirecTV receiver and antenna. This is an additional fee service from DirecTV and will provide you with a high definition picture which is of a much high quality than is available from your current analog TV. You cannot view HD quality TV on your current analog TV. This is where the digital part comes in. The new TV's available for sale today are digital (beware, a few analog's are still out there but should have warning labels) and most all of these are also HDTV's. In addition to the options for your satellite TV reception, you must consider that as of Feb. 17, 2009 your analog TV will not be able to receive TV programming that comes over-the-air via your roof mounted crank-up TV antenna (most likely a Winegard batwing). You can either buy a converter box which goes between your TV and antenna (about $40-$60 and the Government has a coupon program for up to 2 $40 off vouchers) or you can replace your TV with a new digital TV.
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