Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > RV SYSTEMS AND TECHNOLOGIES FORUMS > Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc.
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-10-2014, 09:51 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
CoCoDave's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sequim, WA
Posts: 1,421
Upgrade MiFi 4620L to MiFi 6620L or MHS 291L

Has anyone upgraded from a Verizon MiFi 4620L to a Verizon MiFi 6620L or MHS 291L?

If so, what, if any, changes in performance did you experience? The spec sheets on the Verizon are not very informative. They indicate that battery life is improved, they are "world ready" (no value to us), that they will accommodate many devices, etc.

What they don't say is are the newer devices better at receiving/transmitting the network signals between the device and Verizon and/or the signals between the device and our computers-tablets-phones.

The MiFi4620L works very well and we've rarely been in a location where we could not connect to the Verizon network. Our main complaint is that the Local Area Network (LAN) supported by the MiFi4620L seems weak. The smartphones just about have to be in the same room as the MiFi4620L to connect via WiFi.

Our original 2-year contract is up on the MiFi so upgrading will not cost much. We're just wondering if there's anything to be gained by it.

We use the MiFi4620L as our one and only internet access method at home and in the coach.

TIA,
__________________
Dave & Cathy, 2002 Country Coach Affinity, 42', #6103, CAT C12, Sold - Retired From RV'ing, Linux Mint
CoCoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 10-10-2014, 10:23 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buxton, North Dakota
Posts: 3,940
The Verizon MiFi 6620L is XLTE compatible, so could give you greater speed.
__________________
2003 Winnebago Adventurer 38G F53/ V10 605 watts of Solar
1999 Winnebago Brave 35C F53V10 Handicap Equipped
1999 Jeep Cherokee, 1991 Jeep Wrangler Renegade and 2018 Chevrolet Equinox Diesel
John Hilley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2014, 09:32 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
CoCoDave's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sequim, WA
Posts: 1,421
Thanks, John. More speed would be good. Am continuing to research. It's beginning to look like the problem of connectivity between our devices (laptops, smart phones, tablets, etc.) and the MiFi hotspot within a useful radius is more likely to be solved with a wireless router than a different hotspot.

Keep the ideas coming.

Thanks again,
__________________
Dave & Cathy, 2002 Country Coach Affinity, 42', #6103, CAT C12, Sold - Retired From RV'ing, Linux Mint
CoCoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2014, 10:15 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buxton, North Dakota
Posts: 3,940
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoCoDave View Post
Thanks, John. More speed would be good. Am continuing to research. It's beginning to look like the problem of connectivity between our devices (laptops, smart phones, tablets, etc.) and the MiFi hotspot within a useful radius is more likely to be solved with a wireless router than a different hotspot.

Keep the ideas coming.

Thanks again,
You would want to make sure what you got could be configured as a wireless repeater rather than a router. The MiFi Hotspot is the router. You want a device that can take the MiFi wireless and resend it. The Hawking HAW2R1 is an example.
__________________
2003 Winnebago Adventurer 38G F53/ V10 605 watts of Solar
1999 Winnebago Brave 35C F53V10 Handicap Equipped
1999 Jeep Cherokee, 1991 Jeep Wrangler Renegade and 2018 Chevrolet Equinox Diesel
John Hilley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2014, 11:20 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
dvmweb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MI
Posts: 1,094
Giving up MIFI. Using phone as wifi hotspot. Save $40 per month. Or, $480 per year. Or, 120 plus gallons of diesel.


2013 FleetWood Expedition 38B
dvmweb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 07:26 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Coma's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Emerald Coast
Posts: 1,759
We have the 4620. The biggest problem is it goes dormant. This is a known issue, there is a firmware update that improves this problem. It must be downloaded and is not available for an over the air update.

The weak router performance can be fixed by the addition of a router like pep wave or wifiranger. Both allow wifi over Wan, the ranger allows a tethered operation.
__________________
Jim and Jennie, Cats=Bittles and Potter, 2000 Dynasty 350 ISC
2013 Silverado 4x4 Towed with R1200GS in bed.
PROV23:4 Do not wear yourself out to get rich; have the wisdom to show restraint.
Coma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 08:02 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 157
Hello Dave - I did swap out a 4260 for the 291 (Millenicom/Verizon) and the 291 supports the XLTE (aka AWS). I usually see speeds in the 15Mbps range and the fastest I have seen is 53Mbps. It is very variable depending on where I am in the country.

On the WiFi side, I have not seen any issues within the motorhome. I have seen interference from something else (I assume a neighbors faulty router). To resolve this I force the 291 to a different channel (1,6,11) and that helps. Also, although, I have not tried it yet, the 291 supports the 5GHz channels. The point here is that external interference could be a factor in WiFi quality (other WiFi devices, microwave, cordless phones, etc).


Alan
2002 Windsor PKD
Roswell, NM
str8six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 03:06 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
CoCoDave's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sequim, WA
Posts: 1,421
Thanks, guys. It's beginning to get a little more clear. I tried a Wilson Sleek 4G and it helps on the outdoor side - i.e. between the Jetpack and the cell tower. The remaining area needing improvement is on the indoor side - i.e. between the smart phones, laptops, tablets, etc. and the Jetpack.

I use the term "Jetpack" to suppress my tendency to confuse the distinctions between router, repeater, extender, access point, etc.

Our 16Mbps download speeds are adequate at home. As mentioned above, it can vary widely depending on location. But even in a place like Quartzsite, we're happy with the speed.

Now we need a gadget to improve the connectivity indoors. In the coach it's not much of a problem. Though when DW goes to the rear of the coach and closes the intervening doors she sometimes experiences difficulty with her smart phone on the internet. This while using the WiFi feature via the Jetpack. It's at the sticks & bricks house where maintaining WiFi to Jetpack connectivity becomes more of a problem.

Now the gadget mentioned above might be an MHS291L or a MiFi6620L and that was my original thinking when I started looking at this. But while they offer improvements in technology (e.g. XLTE) it's hard to quantify what improvement could be expected in WiFi signal strength. An extender or booster would presumably increase the range and reliability of the "indoor" connectivity. And that's where I think I'll look now and save the Jetpack upgrade for the time when I'm satisfied with the rest of the configuration.

With the possibility of there being 2 or 3 devices simultaneously connected to the internet I believe that the speed or capacity of the extender/booster is a consideration.

Given all of the above, what specs would be most important to consider when selecting an extender/booster?

Thanks again for the information you have provided.
__________________
Dave & Cathy, 2002 Country Coach Affinity, 42', #6103, CAT C12, Sold - Retired From RV'ing, Linux Mint
CoCoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2014, 03:54 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Buxton, North Dakota
Posts: 3,940
I really don't understand why you are having a problem with the JetPack WiFi. With ours, it can be in the motor home and we can connect from the house 50' away. I know that most of them will do that because I can see every ones JetPacks when we campout together. I wouldn't worry about the capacity of the repeater if you only have 4 or 5 devices.
__________________
2003 Winnebago Adventurer 38G F53/ V10 605 watts of Solar
1999 Winnebago Brave 35C F53V10 Handicap Equipped
1999 Jeep Cherokee, 1991 Jeep Wrangler Renegade and 2018 Chevrolet Equinox Diesel
John Hilley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2014, 08:52 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
CoCoDave's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sequim, WA
Posts: 1,421
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond with your experiences. Based on those replies, here's what I did.

Bought and installed a Pepwave Surf SOHO wireless router. It immediately solved the problem of weak-cranky-intermittent connectivity between our various devices and the Jetpack. I did not get the optional external antennas.

Pepwave Router

Maybe our Jetpack is weak but I tend to think that the noisy EMI (electromagnetic-interference) environment at the stick house is most of the problem. We don't often have these kinds of difficulties in the coach. But then there is a lot less distance between the various devices and the Jetpack in the coach.

Here's a very crude drawing of the configuration. There's also a Wilson Sleek 4G signal amplifier that I can hook up when we get into weak Verizon signal areas.



FWIW
__________________
Dave & Cathy, 2002 Country Coach Affinity, 42', #6103, CAT C12, Sold - Retired From RV'ing, Linux Mint
CoCoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2014, 09:54 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 4,040
One nice thing about the 6620 Jetpack is that it turns off it's WiFi radio when tethered. That doesn't (or didn't) happen with the 4620. I just plug mine into the Pepwave SoHo, select "tethered" on the Jetpack display and everything is running.
__________________
Roger & Mary
2017 Winnebago Navion 24V (Sold)
2014 Tiffin Phaeton 36GH (Sold)
luvlabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2014, 06:04 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
CoCoDave's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sequim, WA
Posts: 1,421
Thanks, Roger, for the tip. I'll keep that in mind. Right now I'm letting the dust settle on this recent re-configuration. The MiFi 6620L still looks interesting and I may go to that later.

To the extent practical I try to keep everything wireless since we move the whole shootin' match from the stick house to the coach and back as needed.
__________________
Dave & Cathy, 2002 Country Coach Affinity, 42', #6103, CAT C12, Sold - Retired From RV'ing, Linux Mint
CoCoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2014, 07:50 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Davdeb1's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Avon Lake, Oh
Posts: 2,958
I just got the 6620 and did a speed test. Much faster than my 4620
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1414893018602.jpg
Views:	248
Size:	34.1 KB
ID:	78049  
__________________
2000 HOLIDAY RAMBLER ENDEAVOR
40 FT--330HP CAT
2 SLIDES-TOAD 2012 focus
Fulltime-Home is where we park it.
Davdeb1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2014, 05:54 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
CoCoDave's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sequim, WA
Posts: 1,421
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davdeb1 View Post
I just got the 6620 and did a speed test. Much faster than my 4620
That's good to know. My last speed test on OOKLA using the Jetpack 4620L yielded 16.04 down and 11.31 up. That was before the Pepwave.

FWIW
__________________
Dave & Cathy, 2002 Country Coach Affinity, 42', #6103, CAT C12, Sold - Retired From RV'ing, Linux Mint
CoCoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
upgrade



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cat 7.2 330hp with 1FU Upgrade to 350hp Milehghcty Caterpillar Engine Forum 33 10-19-2014 09:38 AM
Just upgrade my 18" fluorescents to LED! bcbounders iRV2.com General Discussion 20 08-11-2014 09:50 PM
Zepol mifi and cellular - too good to be true? Bruadair Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 12 02-26-2014 04:34 AM
KVH R-5 upgrade Jeep trekker Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 7 02-23-2014 08:53 AM
4620L antenna Woody2 Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 4 10-13-2013 06:12 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.