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Old 04-20-2013, 06:46 PM   #1
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USB chargers for phones etc

I have been thinking about how I charge all of the devices that I run. It seems that it is silly to have to convert 12 v to 110 and then back to 5v to use the USB chargers for the phone I pad etc. I know that one can get a USB port with multiple USB slots that plugs into 110 but does any one know of one that can be plugged into 12v. I would like to go direct an stop the conversion loss.
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Two charging ports are fairly common for a cigarette lighter adapter. There may be some with more but I don't recall ever having seen one.

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All of my assortment of Ipads and cell phones have AC or DC charge cords.
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Be aware that iPads require more charging power than many USB cigarette lighter type plugs can provide. An iPad charger is 10 watts,(2.1 amps) an iPhone charger is 5 watts, (1 amp). Even with the 10 w charger, an iPat 3 only charges very slowly, especially if being used. Many iPads won't charge on the power plug type USB chargers, they just aren't powerful enough. A PC USB port provides 0.5 w, (2.5 watts)
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:46 PM   #5
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You can get a cigarette lighter to USB charger from WallyMart for about 8 bux. It charges our iPad, phones, GPS just fine. It has 2 USB outputs so you can do 2 at once.

With the lower output of the cig lighter charger is that it takes a little longer to charge the iPad, that is all.
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You can get a cigarette lighter to USB charger from WallyMart for about 8 bux. It charges our iPad, phones, GPS just fine. It has 2 USB outputs so you can do 2 at once.

With the lower output of the cig lighter charger is that it takes a little longer to charge the iPad, that is all.
What is the charging current for the IPad?
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What is the charging current for the IPad?
Good info here. https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3511
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Things I've pondered and have no answers for:

1) How tolerant of 6v charge voltage would most USB devices be
2) Efficiency of the average cigarette lighter adapter at dropping 12v to USB (5.5v?)
3) Long term effect if I pulled 6 v from one of the batteries in the "house" bank (batteries would no longer be loaded equally, but would the USB charge load be enough to matter)

There are a few gadgets in the house that are powered with 5.5 to 6v transformers that I would like to use in the RV.
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Maximum is to be 5.25 volts, minimum 4.75 v. An iPad 10 w charger is at 5.1 v, iPhone charger (5 w) is at 5 v.
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I have several cigarette lighter plugs that have USB outputs. I charge cell phones, and iPads with them (both the original iPad and 4th generation.) My favorite one is a two USB output plug. Besides the diameter of the cigarette lighter it's length just fits flush with the female cigarette lighter receptacle. I can charge the cell phone and iPad at the same time. I have never noticed any "slowness" of charge. Most of the time it is used in the TOAD as that seems to be when I discover that one or both of them are low on battery juice.

Any electronics store sells cigarette lighter USB plugs. I even received on with a product that not only had a permanently attached cord but included a USB port. The are out there. I have used several different kinds and they all work the same. I'm assuming that they all work off of the same charging voltage. (bad is me, maybe.)

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My (original) Droid and Thom's (new) Razor Maxx use different watt/volt type chargers even thou they have the same plug. If Thom tried to charge his phone with my charger it would take about 2 or 3 times as long and may be hurt the phone. But both can be plugged into the laptop thru the USB and be charged that way while we are transferring music, books and pics back and forth.
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Going over to ATVing........ (permanent mount)
Prices and quality vary with manufacturer.......
Search for " weatherproof USB power outlet"
TAPP is tolerant of +/-4 in the input for +/-.25 on the output.
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