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08-15-2020, 01:43 PM
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Winegard's Air360+ for OTA VS. Dish Wally OTA Tuner
We are in the process of trying to decide on a satellite setup for the Tiffin RED 38KA we have on order. After reading various posts we are leaning towards the RF Mogul with Dish service rather than a Trav'ler. We understand with the Trav'ler pre-wire option we ordered there will have to be a control cable added but believe in the long run we will be happier with the RF Mogul.
We are now researching OTA antennas and enhancing WiFi. We had a Rayzar on our last MH and thought it worked fairly well for OTA. We've spoken with Winegard and now their suggestion is Winegard's Air360+ for OTA service and a Gateway to improve WiFi. When researching Dish service we found the Dish Wally Over-The-Air Tuner, which according to Dish, when added to their receiver we would be able to receive and record local channels. It costs much less than the Winegard option. Hopefully, the WiFi USB Adapter offered by Dish will work for our WiFi needs. So far the Dish Wally OTA tuner seems like the best and cheapest option. We like the ability to receive and record OTA local channels without having to contact Dish to change locations.
We would appreciate any suggestions/input regarding Winegard's system vs. Dish's OTA Wally tuner.
Currently we think this is the equipment we will need:
RF Mogul
Wally HD receiver, SKU Mobile-Wally
Dish Wally Over The Air Tuner, SKU 212553
WiFi USB Adapter, SKU WiFi-ADPT
1 TB DVR Upgrade Expansion, SKU 1TBHD
THANKS,
Robert
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08-15-2020, 02:35 PM
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You still need an over the air antenna for the Wally OTA tuner to connect to.
I bought the Wally OTA tuner but don't use it. I have the Outdoors plan and getting locals is a few taps on the Phone App.
Found out IF you can't get a satellite signal with the Wally, ( trees, cliffs, storms ) it will not let you past that point. That means you can not get to the OTA tuner.
I leave the OAT antenna hooked to the TV and just change the source to antenna and auto find the OAT channels.
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08-15-2020, 02:44 PM
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Wait until you get the new coach and try OTA before you jump into getting a new OTA antenna. We have the new style omni-directional antenna that Tiffin is installing now and it works quite well, probably as well as the Winegard 360. I found that when we were in Red Bay, it received local channels as well or better than the Rayzar I had on our Allegro RED. I use the Wally OTA adapter all the time with ours to tune the local channels and it works great. I did have to add a coax antenna amplifier in the AV cabinet as the signal to the OTA coax back there was kind of weak. It's not the OTA antenna as I could get channels up front that the Wally OTA did not pick up.
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08-15-2020, 02:56 PM
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We have a direct tv sat and wineguard. Love the sat. Husband, a computer scientist does not love wineguard. He doesn’t think it gets us much more than our tMobile or campsite WiFi. I thought it worked well when boondocking in his daughter’s driveway. But their website is vague and their service is expensive.
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08-15-2020, 03:09 PM
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Thanks. Do you know of anyone in the Dallas/Ft Worth area or close who is good at installing satellite systems?
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08-15-2020, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJEV
Thanks. Do you know of anyone in the Dallas/Ft Worth area or close who is good at installing satellite systems?
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You might check with Blue Moon RV in Carrollton. They are both an in-house and an on-site RV service company. I've had them work on my Itasca and they did good work at reasonable rates.
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Previously '15 Tiffin Allegro RED 38QRA and '06 Itasca Sunrise 35A
'16 Jeep JKU Wrangler Sahara or '08 Honda Goldwing
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08-15-2020, 03:19 PM
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Thanks. I’ve heard of them.
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08-15-2020, 06:16 PM
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If I were to get a new RV now, I would insist that it have a Winegard Sensar IV. The small and omnidirectional antennas work OK in strong signal areas and cannot match the Sensar IV in fringe areas.
Ken
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