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07-06-2016, 11:31 AM
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Thanks for all the responses. I ordered an Amish unit fri. Got it yesterday. I will install it tonight. Sent an email to Dave Force for some detailed instructions , got a response in I hr. Great customer service ! I hope the unit is as good as that! I will post end results when complete.
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07-06-2016, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gasman936
Thanks for all the responses. I ordered an Amish unit fri. Got it yesterday. I will install it tonight. Sent an email to Dave Force for some detailed instructions , got a response in I hr. Great customer service ! I hope the unit is as good as that! I will post end results when complete.
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Did you get the standard unit or the Helium-filled unit?
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07-07-2016, 05:36 AM
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I got the standard unit. I read the helium units are not as efficient as the hydrogen / ammonia ones. Especially in high heat areas like Tx.
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07-07-2016, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gasman936
I got the standard unit. I read the helium units are not as efficient as the hydrogen / ammonia ones. Especially in high heat areas like Tx.
gasman936
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Good to know!
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07-07-2016, 02:32 PM
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The Amish built cooling units for the Norcold 1200 charged with Helium are not Hydrogen designed cooling unit charged with Helium, they are designed specifically for Helium. The testing on the Helium unit was in a control temp of 110 degree for days. Compared to the Hydrogen at the same time of testing the Helium was about 5 degree colder. If you take a Hydrogen design coil charge it with Helium it will cool in temps lower than 92 degree, temps above 92 the hydrogen designed coils starts losing fast.. The Amish manufacture did not want to just charge already designed Hydrogen coils, they wanted to make one design for Helium to produce a cold temp refrigerator in hot weather, plus Helium is a none flammable invert gas. Helium rises slower, needs more volume, and higher pressure. The Amish built Helium coils have large diameter coils in foam pack and more tubes in foam pack (evaporator section).
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07-07-2016, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dforce1
The Amish built cooling units for the Norcold 1200 charged with Helium are not Hydrogen designed cooling unit charged with Helium, they are designed specifically for Helium. The testing on the Helium unit was in a control temp of 110 degree for days. Compared to the Hydrogen at the same time of testing the Helium was about 5 degree colder. If you take a Hydrogen design coil charge it with Helium it will cool in temps lower than 92 degree, temps above 92 the hydrogen designed coils starts losing fast.. The Amish manufacture did not want to just charge already designed Hydrogen coils, they wanted to make one design for Helium to produce a cold temp refrigerator in hot weather, plus Helium is a none flammable invert gas. Helium rises slower, needs more volume, and higher pressure. The Amish built Helium coils have large diameter coils in foam pack and more tubes in foam pack (evaporator section).
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Thanks Dave!
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07-09-2016, 01:14 PM
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I had JC Refridgeration install the Helium charged unit. Was $200 more for the helium, but we fell better with it. At a setting of 5, the freezer is -2 and the fridge is 33/34. We have had some 90+ degree days here and the temps hold.
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07-11-2016, 12:41 PM
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As the no-cold 1200 is not cooling anymore. I was about to pull the trigger on the Amish unit. Then I find arcticold refrigeration unit. Same price Different design. Anybody have one? They have a lifetime Warrentee ! Verses 5 year w/ the Amish.
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Gasman
My Norcold just bit the dust. I was wondering which unit you went with? Also how was the installation process ? Any tips or hints you could share ?
Thanks,
Dan
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07-11-2016, 01:08 PM
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Do the helium units have the crystal issues when not level?
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07-12-2016, 04:35 AM
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Arcticold cooling unit vs Amish
RV Dan
I went with the standard Amish unit. Just got it in yesterday. Works great. Watch the you tube videos to get some insite on the disassembly and install. Great reference. Also Rvcoolingunits.com has some videos on there website. Build yourself a platform to pull it out onto. That was a back saver. Also don't spare the foam sealer it is very important to have an airtight seal on the foam pack. You can email Dave Force @ Rv cooling for advice. He's great to work with. # 1 customer service.
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07-12-2016, 04:46 AM
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Arcticold cooling unit vs Amish
All done inside the coach. Take lots of pictures of wiring. Use tape with identifying numbers on them. Don't rely on memory.
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07-12-2016, 04:54 AM
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Notice the wood platform under the ice box. Real back saver.
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07-14-2016, 04:43 PM
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if they can fill a new unit with the ammonia and hydrogen then why cant they do it in place???? they also rebuild and refill..so why cant it be done??
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07-15-2016, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
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Gasman
My Norcold just bit the dust. I was wondering which unit you went with? Also how was the installation process ? Any tips or hints you could share ?
Thanks,
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Dan, I would seriously consider paying the extra for the helium-filled unit, IF it's as efficient as the other one. I didn't know about it when I got mine!
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