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Old 06-03-2023, 03:44 PM   #1
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Hydrohot HHE-200-08E Questions

Getting ready to do some service including electric element replacement

1: For the hydrohot furnace loop does it use engine coolant loop or the boiler fluid..pink stuff
2: What is the boiler tank capacity? Not the hotwater tank? I have heard 7 gallons...that would lead me to believe the furnace loop does not use boiler fluid

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That year Hydro Hot HHE-200-08E uses engine coolant..I have the same unit in my '04 American Eagle & was glad to know this instead of having to come up with another Fluid to have on board to deal with. Also I'm sure you know that boiler fluid is expensive stuff! This Hydro Hot unit has been very good to me in the last 12 years I've had the coach. I do the P.M. on it.
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That year Hydro Hot HHE-200-08E uses engine coolant..I have the same unit in my '04 American Eagle & was glad to know this instead of having to come up with another Fluid to have on board to deal with. Also I'm sure you know that boiler fluid is expensive stuff! This Hydro Hot unit has been very good to me in the last 12 years I've had the coach. I do the P.M. on it.
Cut from service manual for my Hydro hot
It came with Camco boiler fluid..not engine coolant
..which is not safe to ingest

Antifreeze and Water Heating Solution:
As the antifreeze type and mixture ratio is essential to the
Hydro-Hot’s performance and ability to comply with
regulations, the following information is being supplied to
understand various types of antifreeze, the quality of wa-
ter necessary, and the mixture ratio. Hydro-Hot Heating
Systems Inc. recommends CAMCO’s Boiler Antifreeze
-100°.
Antifreeze Types:
The following information addresses the necessary usage of
a propylene glycol based “boiler “ type antifreeze in the Hy-
dro-Hot. Propylene glycol is a safer alternative to the more
toxic ethylene glycol antifreeze; however, as mandated by
IAPMO (International Association of Plumbing and Mechan-
ical Officials), only those propylene glycol based “boiler”
type antifreezes deemed “Generally Recognized as
Safe” (GRAS) by the FDA should be utilized.
Because of the significant impact various types of antifreeze
can have on a Hydronic heating system, including the level
of safety provided, it has been recognized that there is a need
to provide an explanation regarding two additional promi-
nent types of antifreeze/coolant available. The following
information should be utilized as an educational means of
ensuring that the proper type of propylene glycol based anti-
freeze is selected:
RV & Marine Antifreeze:
These types of propylene glycol based antifreeze products
are formulated specifically for “winterizing” applications
only. Although RV & Marine antifreeze is often “Generally
Recognized as Safe” by the FDA, it should never be used in
the Hydro-Hot’s Hydronic Heating System. This type of
antifreeze is not formulated to transfer heat, which is essen-
tial to the heating system’s functionality and does not contain
rust inhibitors. Please note, however, that RV & Marine
antifreeze can be utilized to winterize the Hydro-Hot’s do-
mestic water heating system.
Automotive Antifreeze/Coolant:
These types of propylene glycol based antifreeze products
are formulated specifically to protect automotive engines
against corrosion, freezing temperatures, and overheating.
They also have excellent heat transfer and thermal conduc-
tivity characteristics. Although these types of antifreeze
products are considered less toxic and safer than ethylene
glycol for people, pets, and the environment, they are not
“Generally Recognized as Safe” (GRAS) rated by the FDA.
Therefore, they must be marked with a “harmful if swal-
lowed” warning. This additional warning is required be-
cause these types of antifreeze products contain high levels
of chemical inhibitors. Due to their potentially hazardous
properties, they should never be used in the Hydro-Hot’s
Hydronic Heating System.
An
Cut from service manual

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It does use engine coolant for engine preheat though
And reversed for hot water heating while traveling with engine pre heat on
Just seems like boiler.fluid would not be needed for turnace exchange units
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The Camco pink went through the roof during covid . The Century red ready to use has been cheapest at camping world lately.
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Hydrohot HHE-200-08E Questions

The older units use engine coolant as a boiler fluid and have the water coils wrapped outside the boiler so no possibility of cross contamination. Somewhere around 04 05 they changed the design and switched to the water coil being inside the boiler … thus the switch to non toxic boiler fluid. I have helped hands on completely rebuild my 100 .. a big job, and 7500$ 5 years ago. With auto antifreeze as designed. Those made later after the design change the fluid changed but not for the older ones. I can only speak on the 100’s don’t know on the 200’s
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The older units use engine coolant as a boiler fluid and have the water coils wrapped outside the boiler so no possibility of cross contamination. Somewhere around 04 05 they changed the design and switched to the water coil being inside the boiler … thus the switch to non toxic boiler fluid. I have helped hands on completely rebuild my 100 .. a big job, and 7500$ 5 years ago. With auto antifreeze as designed. Those made later after the design change the fluid changed but not for the older ones. I can only speak on the 100’s don’t know on the 200’s
Mine is an 04.
Bought coach used and it had the camco boiler fluid and manual.specifies boiler fluid
And as stated.camco boiler.fluid if you can find it 70 gallon
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OK so as I understand the engine preheat button does not need to be on during travel to provide engine coolant through the loop.for furnace heat while.traveling


But as a bonus it will also heat water that is in the hot water tank.
This would explain why I thought our electric element eas working when we first used the coach ...hot water was produced during travel and electric element was not functioning at all...hence I have bought a new element.
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OK so anyone have an idea how much boiler fluid the -200 series hydro hots use since we have established it is not used in hydronic heating system
Does 7 gallons seem correct?

I have ordered 10 gallons of cyro-tek 100
Meets all requirements called out in the service manual by aquahot
26 a gallon...and free delivery...not bad. We are quite rural at this time

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I would imagine it's in the service manual shows the capacity. A 3/4" hose holds about a gallon per 50' not sure how much will drain out without some help.
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Going to hook up a transfer pump from unit to clean 5 Gallon buckets
Service
Manual says to fill from drain utilizing a transfer pump as well
Slowly getting things inline...have alot of other things ahead...but will update

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OK so anyone have an idea how much boiler fluid the -200 series hydro hots use since we have established it is not used in hydronic heating system
Does 7 gallons seem correct?

I have ordered 10 gallons of cyro-tek 100
Meets all requirements called out in the service manual by aquahot
26 a gallon...and free delivery...not bad. We are quite rural at this time

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So, there's no aluminum or CPVC pipe in the system?
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No otherwise would have looked into aluminum rated boiler fluid

That's for pointing that out though...some folks miss it
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