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08-27-2024, 10:11 PM
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Loose unidentified parts under Slide.
I was looking under my RV today, under the slide, and found Bolt "C" in the picture backed away from collar "A." The collar is threaded and it looks like it worked it's way back from its original spot also based on the clean area "B." My guess is the collar is some sort of adjustment for something, and the bolt acts like a locknut against it. However, I don't like to guess so I'm reluctant to just put it back where it "looks" like it might belong without knowing more.
Can someone advise please.
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08-28-2024, 04:28 AM
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I looked up under mine a minute ago and the nut "C" is tight against the cannister "A"
The video included also shows the same orientation.
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08-28-2024, 05:51 AM
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Does "A" slide back and forth with the nut loose?
Looks like a cover.
You could back the nut off more and slide A back to see whats behind it.
Looks like the nut "C" just holds the cover in place.
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08-28-2024, 07:47 AM
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That entire rod is the mechanism that can manually open and close the slide when the electric motor fails.
The RV should have come with a lug wrench type of rod with an offset handle that would attach to the opposite side of the RV when manual use is needed.
Our slide is the hook up side so the manual handle would be inserted from the curb side. There will be a small hole in the lower siding or under the stairs that the manual handle can access the rod that "A" is on.
There is probably a gear reduction inside "A" that allows for easier cranking of the manual rod to move the slide.
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08-28-2024, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby Dog
I looked up under mine a minute ago and the nut "C" is tight against the cannister "A"
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I'll check the video. I realize the nut goes against the canister, but how does one know where the canister should be? It is threaded on the shaft as well.
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Originally Posted by mokurt
Does "A" slide back and forth with the nut loose?
Looks like a cover.
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The Cannister is threaded as well. That's why the lock nut works.
I'm wondering if that is just a stop so if you crank it in manually, you don't over-crank it. That would seem to make sense at least. Also maybe just a "dust cap" so that critters don't get in round the hole where the shaft comes through the frame.
Somone must know for sure.
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08-28-2024, 04:20 PM
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DEFINITELY NOT just a dust cover.
I closed the slide and the cup was snug tight up against the frame. I opened the slide, backed it off a couple of inches, closed slide again, and it was snug against the frame again !!! Like it's some sort of stop.
I did see there was some white marker on the threads and surmised that was added after installation as a reference so I adjusted the "cup" based on how other bolts were marked with white and locked it with the nut.
I hope someone can provide a clear idea of how this is supposed to be adjusted.
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08-28-2024, 04:30 PM
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Do you have any info on the slide drive manufacturer ?
Can you see the drive motor ?
Does it look like these photos , of a Lippert slide drive ?
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08-28-2024, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Desdinova
DEFINITELY NOT just a dust cover.
I closed the slide and the cup was snug tight up against the frame. I opened the slide, backed it off a couple of inches, closed slide again, and it was snug against the frame again !!! Like it's some sort of stop.
I did see there was some white marker on the threads and surmised that was added after installation as a reference so I adjusted the "cup" based on how other bolts were marked with white and locked it with the
I hope someone can provide a clear idea of how this is supposed to be adjusted.
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That makes since.
The nut is a jam nut for the cannister.
Does the slide close even top to bottom?
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08-28-2024, 05:29 PM
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Lippert web site and parts info refer to the part as a " Stop Can " ; info on adjustment in pdf.
PDF too large to post ; I'll try and cut it down to size .
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08-28-2024, 06:08 PM
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OK; let's try this again .
It appears , the " stop can " is in place to help stop the power mechanism from exerting too much load on the RV wall , by pulling the slide in too hard .
I'd worked on a few Lippert slides and never seen it loose .
Looks like you run the slide in until you have a tight seal all around ; manually stop ; and then lock the " stop can" too the frame to prevent overloading the wall . Then when you bring the slide in there is the load of the slide hitting the seals and the stop can , contacting the frame , to signal that the slide is tight , and either depending on the drive ( Venture or Tuson ) the overrunning clutch ratchets , or the system shuts off due to amp draw of the motor.
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08-28-2024, 07:10 PM
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Thank You !!!!
I'm pretty sure it's back to factory what they set it at the factory. That explanation makes sense and it looks nice and even outside. They had marked the shaft with marker paint anywhere there was a lock nut, so I just used that as a guide to place the can.
Thank you. I searched and searched and couldn't find the documentation so much appreciated.
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08-28-2024, 07:19 PM
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Digging down in the Lippert site took a few mins , but accurate info is best .
There are two different slide drive actuators ; best determined by the shape of the gear reduction case , Venture and Tuson , both contain a plastic sacrificial gear that's been known to break , and can be found on E Bay and Amazon if you know how to search .
Because of Lippert patents , it can't be listed as a Lippert replacement part , only as for, an 18/1 gear reduction slide drive part .
I've replaced a few over the year and, until recently, had issues getting the part .
I guess some Lippert patents must have expired because some adds mention , Venture and Tuson.
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08-28-2024, 07:26 PM
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Here are photos to show the differences between the two types .
In both cases the gear can be replaced with the drive in place .
If the site computer doesn't swap them, first is Tuson second Venture ,
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