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Dr4Film · 11-12-2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nonno

Recall completed. Sensor is in upper left of 1st picture.

Bob,

Actually, what you are referring to in the upper left hand corner of the first photo is the Monitor or Controller. The New Sensor is located higher on the burner stack than where the "useless" Thermal Switch" was installed in the previous Norcold recall. Then it is covered with an insulation patch to cover it up.

Folks,

How this new recall actually will work to your benefit follows:

The temperature sensor on the burner stack measures how hot the burner stack tube is. Under normal operating conditions, this temperature stays with in a certain range, (I do not know what this range is). If the temperature at the sensor reaches 900 degrees F where it has been installed, it will then send a signal to the Monitor Controller that will activate the Controller and subsequently shut down the Norcold control board stopping the cooling system and a RED light will light up on the Controller to alert you of the "Emergency Shut Down". This will eliminate any useless troubleshooting if the reason for no cooling happens to be a fuse or a 12 volt power supply problem instead.

Norcold has previously performed technical tests to determine what the temperature threshold would be for a defective cooling unit. The only way the cooling unit will reach temperatures of 900 degrees F or higher is if the cooling unit IS defective.

I for one will always rely on a fire suppression system inside a RV frig rear compartment. It just makes common sense that if this type of cooling system, whether it was made by Norcold or Dometic or any other manufacture has a problem and starts a fire, I want as much protection available to me to minimize the damage. Hopefully, it will never have to be used.

Dr4Film ----- Richard.

N6CUS · 11-12-2010, 07:57 AM

I see nonno has the fire extingusher installed, I orderd mine from 1st fire or whatever it is. and I talked to Ralph the owner there and he said he used to sell 5 of these units a month
NOW its 15 a day total cost shipped $174
Hello Norcold are you listening?
thanks for a great product.

Nonno · 11-12-2010, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Bob,
Actually, what you are referring to in the upper left hand corner of the first photo is the Monitor or Controller. The New Sensor is located higher on the burner stack than where the "useless" Thermal Switch" was installed in the previous Norcold recall. Then it is covered with an insulation patch to cover it up.

Richard, you're right. Thanks for the correction.

If I get it right this time,
1st picture is pre-recall and shows red thermal switch wires going to lower portion of stack.
2nd picture is after recall. Thermal switch wires have been removed. New controller is in upper left hand corner and brown sensor wire is seen going to upper portion of stack.

Dick1142 · 11-12-2010, 10:23 AM

Was the work done completely from the outside? They will be here Monday to fix mine.

stearn · 11-12-2010, 10:56 AM

I totally agree the more protection against fire the better ! I too will be installing an extinguisher. To answer "Dick 1142" my tech just finished a Monaco before me, and even commented that he had more room to work on the Monaco,and both were done on the outside.

Nonno · 11-12-2010, 05:11 PM

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Was the work done completely from the outside?

Yes, mine was.

paz · 11-13-2010, 06:13 AM

Had ours done last night. Two guys arrived after dark and finished up in about half an hour by flashlight. Haven't been outside yet this morning to have a look at it.

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Originally Posted by Dick1142

Was the work done completely from the outside? They will be here Monday to fix mine.

All the work is done outside, except one guy came in to turn the fridge back on - first on LP, then on auto (it switched to electric) - to check out the fridge and make sure it started back up OK.

SCVJeff · 11-13-2010, 08:42 AM

I'm meeting the factory rep in 45min at the storage lot (they offered to come to me). Sez it's about 15min surgery. Pix to follow.

Gary RVRoamer · 11-13-2010, 09:59 AM

I had the recall work done at Lazydays on Wednesday. Pretty simple and all done from the outside, without removing the fridge. Hard for me to imagine that the foil-wrapped tubing on the right side would not be accessible through the outer door on any Norcold, but I've learned that nothing is impossible in an RV design. It's likely a knuckle-scraper for the tech, though.

Wayne M · 11-13-2010, 11:00 AM

Well, shame on me for not checking my serial number sooner. We received the recall letter yesterday. I stopped in Holiday World in League City, gave them the information and told them I would pay second day air. I called HW today to give them the reference number on the recall letter and Lauren stated she had already ordered the part, had my reference number, the part will be shipped Monday and should arrive Tuesday. We set up a schedule for Wednesday

I don't know why anyone is having any trouble getting the part of getting it fixed. Also, I don't care if I have to pay a little if they go over the allotted time. It's my safety.

Thanks for bringing the automatic fire extinguisher to my attention. I'm going to look around locally for one and install it.

Paulette · 11-13-2010, 05:19 PM

Anybody thought of calling Morris Bart!!!!!!!

SCVJeff · 11-13-2010, 05:47 PM

(Later that same day)

Met the factory guy this morning. He's the same one running around training the shops to do this mod (and just happens to live very near). He worked somewhat slow as to adsorb procedures with this, the 1st of it's kind he had worked on to see what needed to happen. The Winnie's have very little room compared to others to work in. In this case he had to pull the LP off the fridge to get it out of the work area. He explained everything about it, showed me where things go, etc. This can easily be done in 15-20 min or less now that I've seen it.

He also said that this is a ONE-SHOT deal. Once the thermocouple hits ~700 degrees, the fridge shuts down, no reset, no second chance, you're in for a new cooling assy.

Also, everyone should check the water drain cup next to the burner. This one has melted in a couple of spots because he says on occasion the flame will blow around and out the side of the burner at the plastic. I'll be insulating this one ASAP.

The thermocouple is attached to the chimney behind the insulation, then sealed back up:

Here is the evil One-Shot box that has been added:

Here is the water drain cup that is resting next to the burner assy. This is caused from road wind forcing the flame out the side of the chamber:

AFChap · 11-13-2010, 06:08 PM

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e Winnie's have very little room compared to others to work in

Thanks for the report Jeff ...this is my concern with mine. Now I may feel comfortable calling a mobile guy to do it rather than having to "break camp" and drive to a dealer.

BTW ...what model is your Norcold?? ...the drip cup on my 1201 is aluminum, and not at all like what you picture for yours.

SCVJeff · 11-13-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AFChap

Thanks for the report Jeff ...this is my concern with mine. Now I may feel comfortable calling a mobile guy to do it rather than having to "break camp" and drive to a dealer.

BTW ...what model is your Norcold?? ...the drip cup on my 1201 is aluminum, and not at all like what you picture for yours.

It's an LRIM, looks 3 years newer than yours, so probably the victim of being VE'd. I might see if I can find one like yours because that was the 1st thing he looked at and it wasn't a surprise to him.