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11-14-2017, 07:53 PM
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Permanently Mounted Propane Tank
How many folks have been denired a propane refill because the tank was outdated? Did you get it recertified, and at what cost?
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11-14-2017, 07:56 PM
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My understanding is that permanent tanks do not need to be certified. Only portable tanks have that requirement.
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11-14-2017, 07:57 PM
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Permanently mounted tanks don't expire or need to be recertified
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11-14-2017, 09:52 PM
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Just go to another refiller. Plenty around - and no, no recertification required. Strange but true, especially since fixed tanks are in a prime position for salt and mud-induced corrosion while bottles are snug in a sheltered gas locker.
Different in Canada though
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11-15-2017, 04:17 AM
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Thanks all - I did not see that certification was not required. That will make a difference in how I handle this issue.
Like was said - just find a different supplier.
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11-16-2017, 07:46 PM
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All stamped in the steel plate.
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DOT tanks are good for ten years then need re-certed.
ASME tanks, do not need to be re-certed
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11-17-2017, 09:36 AM
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This happens to many of us from time to time.
THe problem is NOT that the tank is outdated because Permentally mounted tanks do not need re-certification.
The problem is under educated pump jockies.
Re-fill elsewhere and notify the management of the place that denies you.
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11-17-2017, 09:24 PM
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There are two things that will disqualify an ASME tank from service. #1 missing or illegible nameplate; #2 rust pitting that creates a crater in the tank.
This website explains both ASME tanks and DOT cylinder standards: http://www.propane101.com/understandingpropanetanks.htm
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11-17-2017, 09:34 PM
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We have never been denied refilling our ASME tank in either Canada or the US. The tank is well over 15 years old.
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11-20-2017, 02:40 PM
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Ditto regarding permanently mounted tanks. Went to 2 different local propane suppliers (Farmer's Supply Co-op and AmeriGas). Both said recert was NOT needed for these tanks...even after I insisted they check condition. In my battleship's case, there is a metal plate under the tank, so road stuff can't hit it. After however much sitting time, my tank still had around 10-25% fill in it, and the valve was still tight as ever.
Via con Dios, and see you out there sometime.
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11-20-2017, 09:29 PM
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New rules are now in effect on certification of built in RV LP tanks here in Manitoba Canada and also in Ontario. Inspection and re-certification is required every 5 years, and probably in most other Canadian provinces as well. This is required in Ontario even on a new RVs, usually arranged by the dealer. If fact in Ontario, 2 inspections are required by different parties, one inspection of pipes and LP equipment, another on the tank, every 5 years. The inspection & stickers here in Manitoba can be $200 to $250.
I recommend topping up your LP tank, if its low, before entering Canada.
See below for Ontario:
https://fuelslc.com/2016/02/inspecti...onal-vehicles/
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06-19-2018, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wa8yxm
This happens to many of us from time to time.
THe problem is NOT that the tank is outdated because Permentally mounted tanks do not need re-certification.
The problem is under educated pump jockies.
Re-fill elsewhere and notify the management of the place that denies you.
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Yes, that seems to be the issue. I just filled mine last week and the youngster said, "You know, your tank is over 12 years old and needs to be inspected....but I'll fill it for you this time, just don't tell tell them inside."
This was at the Flying J in Spokane, WA.
At 1st I was shocked as I had 'thought' the RV's were exempt from inspections, but since I hadn't actually researched it I just said thanks.
But once again IRV2 comes to the rescue and now I know.
Thanks everyone!
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06-19-2018, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by retired-guy
My understanding is that permanent tanks do not need to be certified. Only portable tanks have that requirement.
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That's what I was told too. My 2002 has never had a problem getting the onboard tank re-filled. In fact, I don't' think any of the propane "fillers" have even looked at the tank date. If they have, they've never said anything.
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