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Old 11-02-2020, 01:09 PM   #1
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Replacement fridge??

My Norcold 1200 is still chugging along but at 15 years old it seems to be not keeping things as cold as I'd like here in Arizona where the temps in the motorhome can go 85 to 90 if you're not using the air. Freezers are working fine but the fridge temp can go up to 45+ degrees. We are not boondockers so I've narrowed my choices to a residential unit or the JC refrigeration compressor conversion unit. I have a buddy who researches these things and he just installed a residential unit in his coach and says that's the ONLY way to go. Just looking for opinions. I will not do the installation myself. At 76 years old it's more than I want to attempt.
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Have you replaced that OEM Thermistor??
Have you routinely cleaned burner/orifice assembly?
Have you verified BOTH electric elements are working?
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Old 11-02-2020, 01:17 PM   #3
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How difficult would it be to install a residential fridge? Some folks have a furnace under the fridge which limits the height. Can you get the Norcold out the door and the residential unit in the door? What would someone charge you to do the replacement?

Does your Norcold have adequate capacity for your needs? Are the door seals still good? If so, you may want to consider installing the compressor-type cooling unit from JC Refrigeration. It would be a very simple fix.
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Old 11-03-2020, 07:07 AM   #4
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Like you, we don't boondock so I went with the JC conversion to a 120V compressor. Our coach has the furnace underneath the fridge and I was not interested in having the whole area reconfigured. I had it done at their shop in Shipshewana as I was having other things done in the area. It works very well.
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Old 11-03-2020, 07:28 AM   #5
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Have you replaced that OEM Thermistor??
Have you routinely cleaned burner/orifice assembly?
Have you verified BOTH electric elements are working?
I second the thermister replacement.

I replaced ours with one of the adjustable ones from " Snipthetip.com "

Fridge is working great again.
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Thanks for all the info folks. My seals are good and we have plenty of room for our needs in our 1200. We use the small fridge in one of our bays as a freezer so we have plenty of freezer space. No furnace under the fridge so that wouldn't be an issue, although we would lose a nice slide out drawer we use for pots and pans. I have changed the thermistor, however I'd never heard of the adjustable one. I'll have to look into that. For the time being I'll probably stick with what I have (right now the fridge is at about 38 degrees) but wanted to get some opinions as to the JC conversion vs a residential. As of right now I'm leaning toward the JC conversion.
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Replacing with a res fridg to me is the only way to go. Much more room for stuff and runs like you would expect. This past spring I put one in myself and it wasn't that hard, but I did have a few "strong you bucks" carry it in the door for me. The rest was easy. I had a furnace below my norcold and just lowered it a bit and cut out of little with a circular saw around the edges of the opening. My install thread is below.....

https://www.irv2.com/forums/f103/ano...nt-483848.html
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At my mature age, I replaced our Norcold with a 20+- cf with a Frigidaire refrigerator. It wasn't as hard to do as I thought it would be. However, with the problems I have had getting the new Frigidaire to consistently work correctly, I would never ever buy a Frigidaire refrigerator again. 3 months, 10 technician visits and several out and out lies convinced me to never trust them again. The only thing they didn't replace under warranty was the lightbulb!

However, I am soooooo glad I got rid of the Norcold. There was evidence of burnt wood at the top of the flue!
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However, I am soooooo glad I got rid of the Norcold. There was evidence of burnt wood at the top of the flue!
Seeing that charred wood is very worrying. Was that a roof vented, or wall vented installation?

The reason I ask is that I have always been leary of venting that much heat out the wall. It makes so much sense to vent it out the roof.

That's why I would never have a fridge in a slide-out. They all seem to be vented out the wall.

That said, we are happy with our Norcold 4 door.
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Our Norcold was in a slide and vented out the side wall. What you don't see in the picture was a 1/4" plywood baffle that was supposed to direct the heat from the vertical stack to the side vent. It had a fist sized hole in it and the wood you see in the picture was actually behind the baffle!

That being said, with a residential refrigerator there is no need for external venting at all. I liked our Norcold....until it refused to cool! Then I had a decision to make. Fix, install a new cooling system or go residential. I choose the residential.

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Part of my equation is 10 cu ft now to Residential 15+ cu ft refer.

That is 5 cu ft of stuff that I have to carry out to the mh when loading and 5 cu ft of stuff carried back, that we really did not need, when unloading.

It would not be the refrigerator's fault, but would be the result.
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As for those 'charred' wood
THAT is due to improper installation by the RV MFG
NOT because it is a Norcold or Dometic or installed in slide out or not installed in slide out

POOR/BAD Installation by RV MFG
AND Both Norcold/Dometic have Installation Manuals for RV MFGs to use but them high paid floor jockeys can't read.
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As for those 'charred' wood
THAT is due to improper installation by the RV MFG
NOT because it is a Norcold or Dometic or installed in slide out or not installed in slide out

POOR/BAD Installation by RV MFG
AND Both Norcold/Dometic have Installation Manuals for RV MFGs to use but them high paid floor jockeys can't read.
You are absolutely correct. The poor venting wasn't Norcold's fault.

HOWEVER, here is a picture of what I found when I removed a piece of aluminum foil tape from the inside, left bottom of the Norcold. I was wondering why the white bottom drawer had scorch marks on the back side of it! I contacted the PO and he said Norcold performed some recall work on refrigerator and they put the tape there along with a thermal insulation (looked like a pancake) between the burner assembly and the back of the Norcold cabinet.
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You are absolutely correct. The poor venting wasn't Norcold's fault.

HOWEVER, here is a picture of what I found when I removed a piece of aluminum foil tape from the inside, left bottom of the Norcold. I was wondering why the white bottom drawer had scorch marks on the back side of it! I contacted the PO and he said Norcold performed some recall work on refrigerator and they put the tape there along with a thermal insulation (looked like a pancake) between the burner assembly and the back of the Norcold cabinet.
Norcold preformed the Recall Work?

More likely some 'tech' at a dealership or Mobile repair

In either case....obviously NOT done correctly
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