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03-29-2015, 12:44 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Originally Posted by Mr_D
Helped a friend put a Samsung 197 in his Camelot. It went in through a side window with no trouble. He had sold the old but still working refer to someone and they came with a pickup. We loaded the Samsung into the PU bed, got it close to the MH, then passed it in and the old one out went pretty easily.
So, it does not always require removing a windshield!
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You are right for the Samsung RF197AC...did ya' see post #37 (inserted above)?
So are there any other Fridges this small that can slide in a door or side window?
Interesting tion that might make sense if the propane Fridge goes out...unless you want retrofit to an Amish cooling unit
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03-29-2015, 05:05 AM
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I was once asked if I had a propane refrigerator by my insurance carrier. That should suggest they believe a propane fridge presents more risk.
Norcold seems to be the worse. As I recall, a few years ago they issued 3 or more recalls to fix the same problem.
The only advantage I see to a propane fridge is they can be quieter given some don't have fans. Otherwise, the safety and reliability of a residential fridge wins.
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03-29-2015, 06:09 AM
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Davedeb
Don't want to get off subject here, so please send me a private email with the data showing how you arrived at a .1% probability of a gas absorption fridge fire.
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03-29-2015, 07:15 AM
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National RV Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Originally Posted by CountryFit
john it's amazing to see how much remodel you have done. nice job.
question - did you have to get the samsung fridge in through the passenger side front window? i am guessing entrance door might not fit.
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The Samsung RF197 went through the front door. I took off all the doors on the fridge and made sure the front door and screen would open fully. It had about an inch clearance but will go through. This is a "counter depth" fridge, so it is a little shorter front to back than a normal one. It took two of us to wiggle it in but went easier than getting the Dometic out the door. My entrance door is about rectangular not slanted at the top like some DP doors. That helped.
BTW, I think the residential fridge increase the resale value as more and more new rigs are including them in production.
John
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03-29-2015, 07:18 AM
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original 'OP' (btw, acronym for what?)
Thanks for all of the input on residential vs gas absorption fridges. I am in the market for my first big MH, not replacing a failed fridge. I did travel extensively through the southwest and Mexico in a VW poptop with a Dometic fridge (vintage 1980) that worked fine for years. Always fun to level the 'coach' on some of those back roads and beaches! I am honing in on a 2002-2005 Winnebago Journey 36G or 2005-2006 Vectra 36RD, both of course with standard Norcolds it seems. Will probably stick with that until problems develop (hopefully not flames!), and then decide how to go forward. I will definitely max out solar as I plan to dry camp a lot. Hope to see you all down the road.
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03-29-2015, 07:23 AM
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National RV Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Originally Posted by AZaficionado
Thanks for all of the input on residential vs gas absorption fridges. I am in the market for my first big MH, not replacing a failed fridge. I did travel extensively through the southwest and Mexico in a VW poptop with a Dometic fridge (vintage 1980) that worked fine for years. Always fun to level the 'coach' on some of those back roads and beaches! I am honing in on a 2002-2005 Winnebago Journey 36G or 2005-2006 Vectra 36RD, both of course with standard Norcolds it seems. Will probably stick with that until problems develop (hopefully not flames!), and then decide how to go forward. I will definitely max out solar as I plan to dry camp a lot. Hope to see you all down the road.
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OP, Original poster of the thread.
Do what works best for you. You can always make a change later if needed.
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03-29-2015, 07:30 AM
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We swaped out the nevercold for a Samsung a year ago - best upgrade so far - colder freezer abd room for my beer and its ice cold !!!
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03-29-2015, 08:02 AM
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Scarab
Forgot to mention most DP doors are large enough to allow a residential fridge, but it is so much easier to use a window. Doors require twisting and turning and there are so many items in the way like pilot/passenger seats and dashes that can be so easily damaged. So, removing the seat(s) and taping padding on the dash, etc. makes the window method an easy choice.
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03-29-2015, 08:10 AM
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AZ
Sounds great. If your planning on solar and inverter upgrades, you may want to throw the numbers for a residential frig in your power budget. Then if the times comes to make a replacement decision, You'll have most (if not all) the resources in place to power a residential.
Thanks for the topic.
John
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03-29-2015, 08:39 AM
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All are interesting reads. I have a res fridge in mine and it works nicely (Whirlpool btw). If anyone can offer suggestions on how to keep the ice tray from moving while on the road, that would be nice (since it does slide away from the ice maker but I do raise the arm to stop the ice making). Not that I've had to use the ice often but its a nice feature, I still let the icemaker run. Maybe more than welcome during the coming summer months. I did forget though to dump out the ice tray (only once) when I let it set (no power) and had my daughter do some major mopping (swabbing for us military folks). I sure hope that while its in the shop for warranty repairs that it doesn't get moldy inside (freezer and fridge). Fingers crossed. But not to worry I will get some "baking soda" and clean up any mold. Mine does have those pull out "baskets" and those so called "temp sliders for each basket, just like a home fridge has. But I've never had any problems with it. Hummm!!!? I do wonder if bottled water goes bad though over time! JMHO /Mikey
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03-29-2015, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by flynnwalter
Scarab
Forgot to mention most DP doors are large enough to allow a residential fridge, but it is so much easier to use a window. Doors require twisting and turning and there are so many items in the way like pilot/passenger seats and dashes that can be so easily damaged. So, removing the seat(s) and taping padding on the dash, etc. makes the window method an easy choice.
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03-29-2015, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mikensallyt
If anyone can offer suggestions on how to keep the ice tray from moving while on the road, that would be nice (since it does slide away from the ice maker but I do raise the arm to stop the ice making). Mikey
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It must be a poor Whirlpool design. The ice cube bin in the Samsung RF-197 is held captive inside the slide-out drawer.
I would try some of THIS type of Velcro in one spot. The only problem is that the glue that is used while in a freezer environment may not hold up. I would install it while the freezer and ice cube bin are warm at room temperature.
Another idea would be to use JB Weld epoxy to attach a narrow strip of plastic next to where the ice cube bin sits to prevent it from moving sideways.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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03-29-2015, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zzjea
The Samsung RF197 went through the front door. I took off all the doors on the fridge and made sure the front door and screen would open fully. It had about an inch clearance but will go through. This is a "counter depth" fridge, so it is a little shorter front to back than a normal one. It took two of us to wiggle it in but went easier than getting the Dometic out the door. My entrance door is about rectangular not slanted at the top like some DP doors. That helped.
BTW, I think the residential fridge increase the resale value as more and more new rigs are including them in production.
John
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this is a good news to me. my dometic may have been shot in this winter. a few days ago when i was at the yard to prepare for travelling, i found the fridge just didn't get cold at all in both 110v and propane. with so many happy owners of residential fridge, i am seriously thinking to get a samsung RF18HFENBSR. i have a large solar system already and i want to sleep better in the night. as only i can move it in through the front door, the rest would be easy - i will just cut the dometic section by section and move it out.
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03-30-2015, 06:55 PM
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talking about a dedicated inverter for samsung fridge, what is the wattage needed? based on 12a on 12v, that is 144w. how much bigger should be adequate like 200w?
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