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Old 11-09-2013, 05:28 AM   #197
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Looks good John. we're in Vegas enjoying 70+
Sounds like you're bragging Joe. I also put in carpet on the side walls of the step well yesterday. I will post pics later.

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Old 11-09-2013, 08:15 AM   #198
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Paz could you send me a pic of your refer upgrade. Im trying to start mine soon. Thx
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:29 AM   #199
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Just a note to say we have been camping since Sunday and the Samsung has been running since I installed it about a month ago, either on shore power AC or inverter AC and is working perfectly (-2 freezer and 38 fridge). The only thing I did not take into account is the height of the fridge when you raise it to go on top of something like the furnace. I had no other choice and it does seem a little tall as it reaches the ceiling. The DW can't reach the back of the top shelf but I can and it is so big anyway that we don't really have to store anything there for now. A step stool would work if we really needed to use the entire footage of the fridge.

The freezer on the other hand is really easy to get into as it is higher than if it was on the floor. No question about having made the right decision though. We are very happy with the new Samsung and more ice than we can use. Could start selling it to RV'ers whose fridges don't make any or enough.

The new floor is also a great addition and the old blue carpet is gone. I made new valance and slide surround covers and now we think we have a brand new 2001 Marlin.

I have a couple more projects up my sleeve (wainscoting for dining area, travertine tile for kitchen backsplashes, front curtains I got from another IRV2'er, etc.). We buy RV's to have adventures, right? Well I am having adventures whether I am camping or at home. I even lost about 6 pounds during all of this, mainly because I was working on it and did not have time to snack all afternoon like I usually do when I am bored. Maybe I could market this idea as a new and improved weight loss program.

The cold front just came through yesterday and it is in the upper 30's here about 50 miles north of Houston. We have 2 elec. heaters that we ran all night and this morning I turned on both furnaces for a while to get things toasty. It is crystal clear outside and absolutely beautiful. The fall colors are about to kick in here. Of course in a few days it will likely be back in the 70's or 80's which is ok too. One of the best times of the year.

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I have a couple more projects up my sleeve (wainscoting for dining area, travertine tile for kitchen backsplashes, front curtains I got from another IRV2'er, etc.).

Happy Trails,

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John,

Last spring I finally got really annoyed with cleaning the mirrors located behind the kitchen work area ALL the time. In addition, I did not like all of the stupid wallpaper and stained oak around both of the vanities from splashing water.

I went out to Lowe's and purchased all of the tile and had him do the installation.

Here's the thread where you can see the before and after photos and explanation of the installation.

Maybe you can gleam some ideas from the thread.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/kitc...de-159789.html

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Old 11-13-2013, 11:40 AM   #201
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John,

Last spring I finally got really annoyed with cleaning the mirrors located behind the kitchen work area ALL the time. In addition, I did not like all of the stupid wallpaper and stained oak around both of the vanities from splashing water.

I went out to Lowe's and purchased all of the tile and had him do the installation.

Here's the thread where you can see the before and after photos and explanation of the installation.

Maybe you can gleam some ideas from the thread.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/kitc...de-159789.html

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Thanks Richard. He did a great job. Mine will be a little more simple as I don't want to cut tile. I will use what I have from a S&B job and put it in square. It will be easier than the diagonal and will look a lot better than now. No mirrors there now. They also make a stick on backing where you don't have to use grout to adhere to the wall. I may put it on a piece of luan and attach the luan to the wall. Might be easier to work with. I may use oak trim around the perimeter.

Samsung is working great. I only have minimal time on the inverter mainly while travelling so I don't have info on battery usage. Others have chimed in on other threads regarding this question, so if anyone is considering this option, check them out for dry camping etc. with a residential fridge.

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Old 11-13-2013, 03:58 PM   #202
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John,

Last spring I finally got really annoyed with cleaning the mirrors located behind the kitchen work area ALL the time. In addition, I did not like all of the stupid wallpaper and stained oak around both of the vanities from splashing water.

I went out to Lowe's and purchased all of the tile and had him do the installation.

Here's the thread where you can see the before and after photos and explanation of the installation.

Maybe you can gleam some ideas from the thread.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/kitc...de-159789.html

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Richard:

Now I really hate you!!

My DW's been bugging me to do this; it's one of the few things in the MH we haven't remodeled. I've been putting her off, by telling her it was too difficult. Now you've ruined that line!!

What kind of wall surface did you have when you removed the mirror? I think most of my wall will be a vinyl "wall paper" but there is one area where the that wall transitions to the fabric walls of the living room that I'm uncertain about what that transition will look like when the mirror has been removed.

I guess all I can do now it hope my DW doesn't find your post. I really didn't want another project! At least I don't live anywhere near your installer.

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BTW, I had some ice cream today from the Samsung and it was rock hard. The way it's supposed to be. I guess -2* will do that. Never had that experience before with RV fridges. It was always a little soft at best. It took several hours to thaw out frozen salmon steaks. Got to get used to that too.

Just another reason I'm glad we made the switch.
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Finally, another Happy Camper without the headaches of RV fridges.

So let the party begin!

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John, you've said that you've been camping since Sunday. Now that the cold wave has moved in and you turned your funace on have you noticed anything? You posted that you had to put your Samsung on top of your furnace with that being said, I think the heat from the furnace would cause the fridge to run more often. Has that been the case? Thanks
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:19 AM   #206
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John, you've said that you've been camping since Sunday. Now that the cold wave has moved in and you turned your funace on have you noticed anything? You posted that you had to put your Samsung on top of your furnace with that being said, I think the heat from the furnace would cause the fridge to run more often. Has that been the case? Thanks
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Don,

I'm not sure. I only ran the furnace a short time just to get the chill off. The Samsung is so quiet (and my hearing is not so good) I really don't think it comes on very often. We don't open the doors often and the cold air doesn't get much of a chance to escape. My DW says she can't hear it come on either. The heat from the furnace blows away from the fridge so there is no direct heat at the fridge. That furnace has an outlet to the wet bay, one to the front of the hallway and the remainder exit into the living area. The area under the fridge where the furnace is does not get heat, just return air to be reheated. The second furnace is in the bath with exits to the bedroom.

A lot of the heat and fumes go out the side wall opening to the outside so very little heat is transferred to the area under the fridge except for what goes through the vents. Remember, the old Dometic was there too, above the furnace, so the furnace was designed not to heat the area where it is located. I'm sure there is a little heat transfer under there but in cold weather it is negligible.

I'm pretty sure neither the furnace or the elec. heaters have any affect on the fridge. It is so well insulated and has ambient air around it that I think the only real factor is how often we open the doors and then that would only be a factor in really hot weather in the summer. It's really no different than if you had it in a S&B that it was designed for.

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Typically, the cold air return is on the front of the cabinet below your fridge. The return air moving through this cavity should convectively cool the space, the heat from the furnace goes out the distribution ductwork and out the exhaust. There is also either a timer or temp switch that runs the fan after the burner shuts off to scavenge remaining heat from the exchangers. I doubt your fridge sees much elevated temps from the furnace.
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Not much heat around or on top of the furnace.

A co-worker of mine put a residential in his 1999 Dynasty last year. He had the same furnace under the fridge issue, and the same concern about heat radiating from the furnace.

That was until he did the demo for the new fridge. Taped to the top if the furnace was still a piece of card stock with installation instructions. The tape and the instructions were still in good shape even after 12+ years.

He concluded that the outer shell of the furnace doesn't get very warm at all!
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We just got home from the camping trip and it was uneventful RV-wise. That is my goal each trip, no surprises and no issues if at all possible. I didn't screw up anything or run over anything. It was good.

The fridge is sitting on a 1/4" diamond steel plate for flooring and the steel was was not warm from the furnace or the fridge.

I looked at the furnace very closely during the demo. and saw where the air intake was as I did not want to block it in any way. It is designed to take air in from the side and a little from an offset in the top. I also noticed the paper labels that were still on the furnace cowlings after 12+ years.

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John, do you have RV hook ups at your place?? Thinking of coming to visit and looking over your handy work. Hey, while I'm there you might as well repeat the installation process on my Tradewinds. LOL, Just Kidding.

Is your entry door like mine, not fully rectangular from bottom to top? I'll send a pic of mine when I get a better wifi connection.
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