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Old 08-14-2022, 02:13 PM   #1
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The Kwikee strikes again

I have read all the post on this site regarding Kwikee steps. However my dilemma seems to be a bit different. My steps are trapped between deployments. Neither in nor out just sagging in the middle. I have torn the gear box apart and observed gear action, no problem. Lubed everything. Checked fuses, circuit breakers, etc. In the past I must have had a problem and applied the cross wiring technique to regain use of steps. Now the motor will go both directions on its own away from controller[PN909506000] influence but still not close the deal, in or out. The ignition is not having an affect on steps at all, ditto override switch. 2002 winnie. 58000 miles. series 32. 10312040 step motor, old style with gear turning in the cover. Gird your loins and thanks.
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Have you followed the troubleshooting steps, that have been linked in many Kwikee step threads?
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Old 08-14-2022, 04:05 PM   #3
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Yes I read the 880 manual but have not gone through the controller or door switch yet. I isolated the motor intentionally to determine the health of the mechanics first.
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"Now the motor will go both directions on its own away from controller[PN909506000] influence but still not close the deal, in or out."

So, with the motor being powered by an external 12VDC source, it will not move the steps? Sounds like the motor is bad, unless you have a gear issue.
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Old 08-14-2022, 06:41 PM   #5
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Yeah it goes each way about half way and then stalls. I just switch the polarity manually. There is a bumping noise, but as I said I observed the gear mesh off the coach and it does not slip or jump until actually moving the step. The load must be affecting the windings maybe.
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My concern if motor is bad, is getting the proper replacement to match the gear box. I would think the geometry of gear box to step clevis has to be a constant.
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Those motors are nothing more than auto window motors.
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This is my gearbox type.Click image for larger version

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Those motors are nothing more than auto window motors.
Are you saying to just remove the electric motor via the 4 Allen screws?
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Ok. I opened the motor itself and found the broken plastic screw drive(stinking like dead fish). The armature was sculpted on two bars, probably from misalignment after gear failure. The main sprocket is intact. So, the question is will the screw drive and armature from another motor fit in. The housing and magnets are in good condition. Any thoughts?
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You are better off taking the motor to your local auto parts store and see if they can match it up. Tell them it’s off a 90s Taurus.
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E-Trailer has these parts. Got a upgraded kit for my 1997 Holiday Rambler.
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Well, it has been awhile from the original post. I did get a new motor and adapt it to old gearbox. I then did all the test outlined in Kwikee 880 owners manual for the controller. I got the correct voltage readouts. But when the two prong connectors are put together nothing happens. I took apart the previous crosswireing. When you jump wire the motor in works great in either direction. The ignition has no effect one way or the other. I get a click near battery box under steps but being at front end of coach am unable to locate the sound.
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I assume the first thing you did was to insure both ground wires have a clean tight connection?
The step controller is always "hot", it works by switching on/off the ground connection.

The controller controls the motor by sensing high current draw/resistance and turns off the motor. Same way a window motor works.


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