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Old 03-19-2016, 11:09 AM   #15
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Its the weekend - he's probably gone until Monday.

But if he checks, simply disconnect (isolate) the bad battery and run off good one. But that assumes OP is comfortable making changes to battery connections, between batteries and main feed and ground to coach.

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Old 03-21-2016, 04:12 PM   #16
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The batteries seem to even out before we left for the weekend. One of them is still running hot but the other one is a lot cooler.

Made it through the weekend without a battery incident. Different incident but that's another story of not to do. Thanks for the warnings of concern.

Going to get new batteries now that we are back. Just a matter of which ones. Can't really justify the AGM since we will be using it on weekends and one or two weeks a year.

Doesn't look like a 8D group size comes in a deep cycle other than AGM so will need to figure out what will fit in the space I have.

Suggestions welcome

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Show us your "space" and the suggestions will come.

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Old 03-21-2016, 06:25 PM   #18
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As the Dr said,
we are good at spending OUR money, how much easier do you think it is for us to spend yours

I went from 4 L-16 monsters to 4 T-105's and think I have better battery setup than I did and certainly less weight !!!
of course the L-16's were circa 2010 or earlier and hadn't been cared for properly
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Here are the pictures of the current setup
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I just ran into this a couple of weeks ago http://www.irv2.com/forums/f54/one-c...ot-277128.html , the "Hot" one is internally shorted out, unhook it, and remove ASAP. I replaced all of mine with new, as they were from 2009!
On our '02 DSDP we got 10 years out of the OEM Interstate U-2200 batteries and over 8 out of the starting batteries. Could have gone longer with the starting batteries too as it actually was a starter going bad causing my problems.
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Doesn't look like a 8D group size comes in a deep cycle other than AGM so will need to figure out what will fit in the space I have.
Yes, they do make deep cycle wet cell 8D's or at least Interstate does list them.
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:21 PM   #22
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Great to hear!

I can't fine them on their site

I'd appreciate the link

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I have straighten out the photos so there won't be a run on chiropractors.

I assume that the upper shelf is just a perimeter frame that is open to the bottom so the lower batteries can be accessed. If that is true, then you have plenty of room to install 4 - 6 VDC HD Golf Cart Batteries hooked up in series/parallel which is a better choice for house batteries plus they are easier to handle when you need to work on them. You would need to purchase some heavy gauge cables to wire in the extra batteries.

The article that was posted earlier in this thread (I assume that you have read the information) states that 6 volt batteries wired series/parallel in general will offer more usable AH's than the larger 12 VDC versions.

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Before I replaced the batteries, in the pictures, I would pull the posts off, clean up all of the corrosion and test them. They are a disaster.

One may be warm because it is low on water but charging and the other is making no connection.

Step one would be a blast from a garden hose and then take all of the pieces apart and soak each in hot water with a bit of baking soda.
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Dr4Film

Thanks for turning the pictures. I was surprised when I saw them posted but didn't know how to correct them in this app.

I have read the article a couple of times. Making more sense every time I read it. And I think I have my decision.

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They are a mess aren't they. Thought the same thing when I bought the coach. From the receipts, it appears that they were serviced and cleaned up about a year ago. Not sure I'm impressed with that work. It also shows that these batteries were installed 4/12. So it appears that they are at the end of their life.

I am going to go with 4 - 6v deep cycle golf cart batteries

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Anytime more than one like things are connected together they all should be same.

So yes something is amiss.

Heat is generated by current flow so first GUESS is the warm one has shorted cell si drawing more current and other one is not due to low resulting charge voltage.

These do not look like slide trays so difficult to look to observe bubbles but one would likely see one cell doing less.

Remove both batteries and let stand on the ground overnight and check voltages.
The hot one will likely be lower than the warm one.

If you can check SG of all that can show if one is different from rest.

You have 12 cells total and all should read close but yours will likely have one that stands out different.

Your stacked batteries may not be as built from factory so wait to replace and determine if better to restore to factory or use different battery type as yours does not look like it is servicable without work.

And yes this is not safe as they can explode with different levels of intensity so if you can reach in and loosen the caps do that to avoid excess gas pressure and leave door open and unit unplugged for several hours or overnight to avoid sparking any gas that may be present.
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4/12 is not that old for deep cycle 8D's. (If they're deep cycle!).

I'd follow Twinboats input. Get the batteries out, clean the posts and the connectors well.

Getting a good charge on the batteries, then letting them sit and testing them once they're full rested, will tell you if they're really shot or not. Even if you have one that has different results then the other, a de-sulfation cycle might bring them both back to the same level.

Why replace until you know it's needed?

For your stated usage, going with 4 GC Sams or Costco 6V would be the least expensive way to get you some coach batteries, without having to spend a bundle.

And, of course, proper maintenance is needed going forward.

Best of luck to you. And sure hope you get how dangerous it is to be running with a battery that is running hot. Not preaching, just repeating that if it is an internal breakdown of the battery - it is a fire waiting to ignite. Until you know for sure, do not charge the batteries.

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Thanks Smitty & Tony

Going to Les Schwab this morning for two new tires.

I'll have them test the existing batteries and see if I need new batteries too.
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