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Old 05-04-2021, 07:28 AM   #15
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I would leave it alone and give it more time. The old rule of thumbs for solar and battries was 100 watts for 100 AH of battery at 12V. This rule would say you are 2x rich on solar.

Now in the last 10 years we have gone to more use of inverted power use in the day, which increased pannels are good for. I think you are good, with maybe your next step more battery.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:40 AM   #16
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The other thing we are going to get is a percolator I can use over the fire. I'm up with the sun, and first thing I do is go outside to start a morning fire. I can use that to get some coffee going while the sleepy heads do their thing.
You might want to think about a cowboy style enameled coffee pot and a pour over or french press coffee maker. You can use the left over hot water for dishes or any other thing you need hot water for. Just an idea. Here's a link: https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/gsi-...0&gclsrc=3p.ds
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:57 AM   #17
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DW is a keurig lemming at home, but I was not about to install an inverter and batteries just to run one, and firing off the generator at 06:00 or whatever wasn't going to cut it either. I got a stovetop percolator and over time perfected the process of making the horrid beverage for her, not as quickly as a keurig can (maybe 15 minutes cold start to finish) but she says it's every bit as good.

Over time you begin to "consolidate" your genset run time. For us if we want to run an AC appliance we'll leave the genset run a while and cover all the bases - warm up something in the microwave, run the vacuum cleaner, hair dryer, charge something up, power tools, whatever, meanwhile the converter is dumping amps back into the batteries and giving them a boost. So while I wouldn't fire off the genset just to do one thing for a few minutes, it's not hard to combine a bunch of tasks and take advantage of those times you do run it.

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I found a great K cup press that you pour in water from the kettle and push down a plunger kind of like a French press. It works really well.
It doesn’t have a name on it but the model is KP-1000, I found it on Amazon.
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These are perfect. Just ordered 3. I can pop 2 in the bedroom (1 on each side of the bed by the night lamps) so we can have our phones near us when charging and turn off the inverter at night. I'll stick the other one near the kitchen so the kids can charge their tablets. Thank you for the tip.

I ended up with those after a few trial and errors with others. These are SIMPLE...just drill the hole near one of your existing under-cabinet lights, tap the wires and 3 quick screws! Glad you found it helpful.


I put one above the dinette, one above the couch, and one in the rear bedroom...pretty much wherever people may sit/sleep.


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In our case, however, it's the Keurig. This last trip was the last one with the current one we have. Using it drew 135amps for about 2 minutes while it warmed up the water. Maybe 1/4 of that for each subsequent cup. They make models that use half that now, so that is one change we will be making.

135 amps for 2 minutes = 135AH/30 = Just 4.5AH usage from your batteries. Don't worry about it!


As mentioned, you've got 400w of solar which on a sunny day can produce up to 80-120AH of charge back into your batteries. With what you described, I would think that you will use somewhere between 40-100AH per day boondocking (especially if you don't run your inverter 24/7). Your furnace might use half of that power, so if it's not cold at night you will use much less than 100AH/day. And you always have your generator as your safety net if needed for 1-2 hours.


I think you should boondock 4-5 more times and keep an eye on your battery highs and lows for the day. Then you will have your answer.


As a reference point: I have purchased a few 30' class C RVs from Cruise America from their rental fleet. They send out 1000s of families every year in their RVs for all sorts of vacations. Many of those people must be boondocking from time to time. These RV rentals come with ONE lead acid AGM battery which has about 100AH capacity and no solar (...except for a 10w trickle charge solar panel which is really more for when the RV is just sitting on their rental lot between renters). So most people who rent/use RVs have just the 1 battery and no real solar. You've got ~240AH of batteries AND 400w which is about enough to charge your batteries ~100AH/day as long as it's sunny.



My guess is that with your current setup and your current usage, 95% of the time when you are boondocking you will be perfectly fine. So is adding more solar panels (~$300-$500) and batteries ($300-$400) worth covering a problem that only comes up 5% of the time (....and when it does, you have a ~$4000 generator backup already to get you through)?


I think a better use of that $$$ would be to buy something for camping that makes your wife's camping experience more enjoyable (...so that you can go camping more! lol).



Happy Camping!
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Good summary and good work.

As others have said converting phone AND computer charging to 12V will save you a bunch of Ah on the batteries. We havea very robust system but still installed 4 of these throughout the coach and run all computers and phones as well as our Blue Ray and Joey with 12V adapters..... In your situation this would be even more beneficial IMO

https://www.amazon.com/MOUNT-12V-VPA...0SVVQHKW&psc=1
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