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07-19-2021, 09:10 AM
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Location: Lanesboro, Minnesota, between Fountain and Whalan
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Originally Posted by PbdBlue
Anderson Power Pole connectors are rated for 10,000 connect\disconnects. I use both Anderson and SAE but for heavy use\high current applications in my experience Andersons are a better option.
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Yes I know Anderson's claim. I also know that SAE connectors last many reconnections, but I'm guessing not 10,000. Anderson's can break/distort easily when stepped on. SAE's can distort just as easily. We have three 15' cables with SAE connectors. We have used three only once, but it was needed.
I do choose Anderson connectors when they are located in an area not prone to abuse.
One needs to choose the connector for their situation they're comfortable with and we're giving the poster options.
Enjoy,
Perry
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07-19-2021, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PbdBlue
Anderson Power Pole connectors are rated for 10,000 connect\disconnects. I use both Anderson and SAE but for heavy use\high current applications in my experience Andersons are a better option. MC4 is not a connector to be connected\disconnected frequently.
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That is for the silver plated contacts. Tin will not hold up as well, and would benefit from contact cleaner/dressing. Per 3M "The Tin Commandments"
High DC voltage is an issue, 48v (mine) or 96v (2 in series). Are the connectors your handling water proofed? Can you reliably take precautions like throwing a towel over the panel? They make IP64 boots.
https://powerwerx.azureedge.net/prod.../ds-sbboot.pdf
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07-19-2021, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Perryb67
MC4, Anderson, or SAE connectors are NOT designed to be reconnected numerous times. Anderson and SAE connectors are easy to use, but MC4 connectors can be a PITA. We chose SAE connectors: they are smaller, more robust, and less prone to breakage.
We do have MC4 connectors for the panels on our roof though. We rarely use our portable so our portable connectors should last a long, long time.
Enjoy,
Perry
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I have to disagree on the Anderson's not being designed for reconnections.
They are rated for over 100k disconnects, they are used on electric forklifts that have the batteries swapped daily.
I'd feel comfortable using them.
The sae's seem like they would be fine as well. Dont look as robust as the power poles though.
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07-19-2021, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by inthepines
I have to disagree on the Anderson's not being designed for reconnections.
They are rated for over 100k disconnects, they are used on electric forklifts that have the batteries swapped daily.
I'd feel comfortable using them.
The sae's seem like they would be fine as well. Dont look as robust as the power poles though.
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I see we've gone from 10,000 to 100,000 re-connections. Doesn't matter. I doubt I'll wear out my SAE's.
I've stepped on and broken a couple of Anderson connectors that were on the ground, that's why I'll put up with SAE's that distort, but can be straightened. If we didn't have a connection on the ground I'd probably have Andersons.
Again, the poster has viable options.
Enjoy,
Perry
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07-19-2021, 11:16 AM
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Haha Come on you shouldn't be stepping on any connections. Plus connections off the ground is good practice if applicable. Well that is my practice, cant speak for others. I completely understand what you mean with the connectors.
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07-19-2021, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by inthepines
Has anyone converted a panel to a portable suitcase type?
suitcase is kind of the wrong wording but it's the general idea.
I don't want to install panels on the roof of my TT so I was thinking
I could just add some angle aluminum to the frame and set them on the ground.
1-2 panels tops, get one of those shipping blankets to wrap around and store on top of the bed while going down the road. (secured of course)
I don't like the price or the efficiency of the flex panels or other suitcase types I've seen so far. I know the "mounted" ones will be a bit bulky to
handle. Being able to park where I want, seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me.
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I used the DIY build details in this Adventurous Way blog post to build my 200 watt portable solar last year. I used the same Renogy panels they did but used a different charge controller and connection to the battery. As my camper has a Zamp port on the side I used an SAE connector between the charge controller and the Zamp port and the MC4 connectors between the panels and the charge controller. I wired the panels in series and have the charge controller next to the Zamp port instead of out at the panels. As we often camp in more forested areas the ability to move the panels around and keep the trailer cooler in the shade was a compromise I was fine with. Last fall we did close to 2 weeks dry camping in Utah and Idaho and only ran the generator once, mainly to see how well the new PD4655 converter/charger did compared to the old WFCO it replaced.
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07-19-2021, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by inthepines
Do the legs adjust for angle or is it just 1 angle?
I can see the mc4 connections not holding up, how about anderson connectors?
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I could make them adjust. Just drill more screw holes.
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07-19-2021, 12:38 PM
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I purchased two 100W panels for my Ford E350 van I'm converting into a minimal camper. I decided to mount one on the roof and make a portable panel out of the second one to use with both the van and to augment the 320W I'll be installing on my MH.
Anderson Powerpole connectors are pretty much standard with ham radio operators. Beware of knock-offs.
Anderson Powerpole connectors are best installed via a specialized crimper but they can be installed "manually". Here's a link to a video on how to do this:
https://www.instructables.com/Crimpi...oles-Manually/
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07-19-2021, 01:01 PM
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You could get fancy add some hinges, a latch, fold down legs, and a carr uh ing handle. Make it when Closes the two glass panels are facing each other.
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07-19-2021, 05:08 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lanesboro, Minnesota, between Fountain and Whalan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inthepines
Haha Come on you shouldn't be stepping on any connections. Plus connections off the ground is good practice if applicable. Well that is my practice, cant speak for others. I completely understand what you mean with the connectors.
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I agree, you shouldn't be stepping on any connectors. There's theory and then there's actual practice. BTDT!
I could lift the connectors off the ground for someone to trip over, but I'm too lazy.
Enjoy,
Perry
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