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Old 01-12-2019, 08:29 PM   #15
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235 is the tread width in mm not the height. The 80 or 85 number is the height percentage so tire width will be identical just a bit taller.

245 would be a wider tire than the 235 by 10 mm.

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You might want to check your what you wrote. Please show me a 235/85 x 15 that is the same width as a 235/50 x 15. As one size gets wider the other gets shorter. One is a ratio of the other.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:47 PM   #16
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You might want to check your what you wrote. Please show me a 235/85 x 15 that is the same width as a 235/50 x 15. As one size gets wider the other gets shorter. One is a ratio of the other.
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The first three-digit number in the tire size refers to the tire width. For instance, in a size P215/65 R15 tire, the width is 215 millimeters. ... For example, in a size P215/65 R15 tire, the 65 means that the height is equal to 65% of the tire's width. The bigger the aspect ratio, the bigger the tire's sidewall will be.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:32 AM   #17
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I, along with many on the Montana Owners forum have gone to the Sailuns which come in both 80 and 85 series. I went with the 85s with no problems. Research the Sailun tires, as they have a stellar reputation and cost significantly less than the Goodyear G rated tire. The difference in weight between the Sailuns and the OEM tires was noticeable.
The only downfall of this very fine tire is that unless a towable has 110psig rated wheels, you can't get all of the benefits, Many 5ers like mine have 94 psig Sendel or similar wheels used for 80 psig tires - and why our 5er has SOB (NOT Tow Max China Bombs). There is a Sailun S637 inflation chart somewhere but I couldn't find it this morning
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Image result for tire size explainwww.lesschwab.com
The first three-digit number in the tire size refers to the tire width. For instance, in a size P215/65 R15 tire, the width is 215 millimeters. ... For example, in a size P215/65 R15 tire, the 65 means that the height is equal to 65% of the tire's width. The bigger the aspect ratio, the bigger the tire's sidewall will be.
Understanding Tire Sizes | Just Tires
http://www.justtires.com/content/con...eName=TireSize
Thanks drwwicks.

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Old 01-13-2019, 09:59 AM   #19
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The only downfall of this very fine tire is that unless a towable has 110psig rated wheels, you can't get all of the benefits, Many 5ers like mine have 94 psig Sendel or similar wheels used for 80 psig tires - and why our 5er has SOB (NOT Tow Max China Bombs). There is a Sailun S637 inflation chart somewhere but I couldn't find it this morning
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Old 01-13-2019, 04:31 PM   #20
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A 1/2" increase in tire height places all of the coach and it's contents higher from the road surface, which is less stable and only helpful if ground clearance is required by your travel (off road, ruts, chuck holes, approach angle).

Another issue with increasing the tire size is that brake power decreases. The lever arm is more, so the coach takes more force from the brakes to decrease speed.

The change in aspect ratio reduces the sidewall stiffness. Some tires are designed with additional strength in the sidewall as is the case with truck tires vs passenger car tires. That might be a consideration to talk over with a tire expert.

The value of a bigger tire is the weight capacity increase, that you have identified. That should improve reliability as well. My preferance would be wider and lower aspect, but there are often very few options.

Weight verification is not difficult on an axle to axle basis. A standard CAT scale has three pads, spaced to weigh the steer axle, drive axle and the trailer. Takes multiple passes to get weights on all RV axles. Getting left and right weights is more difficult. The standard CAT scale is usually gated to not allow an offset pass for one side weights. There are supposed to be services that have individual scales to weigh all wheel positions. Maybe someone has a contact they would share.

Research this question with the tire guys for better information, as I used to think wider tires gave you better traction on ice.
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As long as you have enough room under the fenders and between the two axles (so the tires don't rub each other), I don't think the extra 0.9" in diameter will make any material difference. The slight gain in load capacity is also insignificant, though more capacity is always better. The taller tire will run a few less revolutions per mile (19, says the size calculator) so maybe runs a tiny bit cooler, but again insignificant in the big picture.
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Most just put on cheapest tires that can carry the rated weight on the axles.

Not any more. That is, if they want to keep their membership status in RVIA.


Starting right at the end of model year 2017. All RV trailer manufacturers that are members of RVIA (98%) were required to provide original equipment tires - via inflation - with load capacities 10% above the trailer's vehicle certified GAWR (s). What that would boil down to; is a 5200# axle would be fitted with two tires that provide more than 2860# each for that axle fitment.


Brands are only a marketing tool of the industry. In the regulations world an equally designed, designated size, such as ST225/75R15 LRD is equal in load capacity to all others of the same size and design.
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