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05-16-2021, 01:01 PM
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Once travel trailers start to sway it's difficult, if not impossible, to correct it.
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05-16-2021, 01:07 PM
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Another possibility is that he had the weight distribution bars cranked up too high. That's a sure way to cause a jackknife.
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05-16-2021, 02:13 PM
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Thanks George for that useful guide to towing with Ford vehicles.
I was thinking wind issues, but I see another factor to include in such an equation would be something like air resistance and turbulence.
Not really part of an equation, but may get some people in to trouble is believing what RV salespeople tell them without a good fact check. I've learned to ask at some questions that I already know the answer to and see how accurate the sales person will be. That may provide a guide how much else I'll believe from them.
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05-16-2021, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn and Kathy
But it's a Porsche, it should be able to tow anything.
Glenn
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Usually find them more on a roll back! LOL
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05-16-2021, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twogypsies
Once travel trailers start to sway it's difficult, if not impossible, to correct it.
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What you said is only true if the driver doesn't know what to do-and when. It's really quite simple, when trailer sway is noticed gently accelerate while while manually braking the trailer, when sway is resolved release trailer manual brake and slow down. This pulls the tow vehicle and trailer into a straight line very quickly. This is also effective when being passed by a large vehicle/semi.
I was taught this technique about 45 years ago, it is quite effective at eliminating trailer sway.
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05-17-2021, 12:47 PM
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Triple E Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Accident today in I85 / I40 in NC
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Originally Posted by George Miklas
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So I don't have FaceBook!
Never have never will!
Any other way to look at this?
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05-17-2021, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by move on
Actually a Porsche should be able to handle that trailer. One thing I notice is that the hitch came off the ball. That doesn't usually happen so easily. It could have ripped off in the accident but then the coupler would be damaged (doesn't look like that is the case here but maybe a different camera angle would show coupler damage). So it could be that the coupler lock wasn't locked properly, or maybe the hitch ball was too small.
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This. The Cayenne and its VW twin are both very capable.
But of course everyone needs to jump to conclusions first.
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05-17-2021, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by propchef
This. The Cayenne and its VW twin are both very capable.
But of course everyone needs to jump to conclusions first.
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But, capable of WHAT/how large?
HP is certainly not the issue.
Had an early Nissan long bed PU with the V6 from the 300ZX and manual transmission. LOTS of power, but still a small PU. Not a good tow vehicle for large trailers even though 0-60 was still plenty adequate.
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05-17-2021, 03:30 PM
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A Porsche Cayenne is a better tow vehicle than a 1/2 pickup.
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05-17-2021, 05:43 PM
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I'd still rather have the truck...and I'd like a Super Duty besides. Just saying...your statement about Porsche and looking at those pictures just doesn't make me want to tow with that vehicle. To me it's like the tail wagging the dog. The weight and mass of a full sized pickup is a much better match for everyone's safety.
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05-17-2021, 06:24 PM
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Check the Porsche specs. It's equal or greater than an F-150 as far as curb weight and axle ratings, and it has the advantage of a lower center of gravity and independent suspension. But I agree. I"d rather have an F-250.
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05-18-2021, 08:28 AM
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I looked up a 2015 Cayenne and every option showed a 7700 lbs tow rating and if I guessed right that looks to be about a 26ft trailer showing a GCWR of 7995 lbs so the weight could be close to max. Personally I would want a longer wheel base to tow that large of trailer (but thats just me). I have a 2021 GMC Denali 2500 diesel and a 32 ft Attitude toy hauler they show 9k empty rating and my truck is rated at 14500 lbs bumper pull and I have to tell you that if the wind is blowing or I get the tail wagging its a handful
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05-18-2021, 09:25 AM
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I'm sure the RV Dealer told them "Not a problem towing this trailer with your SUV"
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