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Old 05-16-2021, 09:36 AM   #1
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Accident today in I85 / I40 in NC

Small SUV and travel trailer flipped on I85/I40. No official word on the cause.

https://www.facebook.com/57523447260...2458374552600/
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Old 05-16-2021, 09:57 AM   #2
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Just more proof that smaller vehicles should not be towing travel trailers. Looks like they had the basic cheap weight distributing hitch with minimal sway control.

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Old 05-16-2021, 10:09 AM   #3
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If he is over the towing capacity of his SUV, I hope the police throw the book at him.


Just lucky it did not kill some innocent in the process.


Sadly, likely his insurance company will make him whole and he can go right on doing it while our insurance rates go up.


We are well into the time of: "No penalties for bad behavior" and its corollary "If something bad happens, it is someone else's fault" .
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It looks to me like the trailer tongue was not fully down on ball, just wdh holding it on the ball easy to do if not experienced seeing hitches.
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Thatís one of those things just because it can pull it doesnít mean you should.
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Small SUV and travel trailer flipped on I85/I40. No official word on the cause.

https://www.facebook.com/57523447260...2458374552600/
Can't view it because I don't do Facebook! Is it reported in the local news site?
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But it's a Porsche, it should be able to tow anything.

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Can't view it because I don't do Facebook! Is it reported in the local news site?
No, it is reported by Orange County Sheriff. When it appears on a news network, I will link it to the thread.
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So weird, I don't do FB either, but when I first clicked on the link it went right to the story. Now if I click the link it says I have to sign onto FB.

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Big trailer, small tow vehicle.
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Towing capacity is one part of the equation. I've seen couple different equations for towing safety and sure either one has real experimental data to support it.

However, factors I think would go into such an equation would include at least:

Wheelbase of tow vehicle
Distance from rear trailer axle to hitch ball
Hitch components
Speed
Wind
Weight of RV
Weight distribution in the RV
Weight of tow vehicle

At least from what I read here and FB I don't see much of this information presented.

I also suspect such an equation would be different for a bumper tow vs a 5th wheel tow setup.


Just my opinion without supporting data I would not to tow that trailer with that SUV. Too much at stake not only for you and your family but also any one else that might become involved in an accident.

When we choose to do or not do something I think we need to think out side of the "me me me" bubble.
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Actually a Porsche should be able to handle that trailer. One thing I notice is that the hitch came off the ball. That doesn't usually happen so easily. It could have ripped off in the accident but then the coupler would be damaged (doesn't look like that is the case here but maybe a different camera angle would show coupler damage). So it could be that the coupler lock wasn't locked properly, or maybe the hitch ball was too small.
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Towing capacity is one part of the equation. I've seen couple different equations for towing safety and sure either one has real experimental data to support it.

However, factors I think would go into such an equation would include at least:

Wheelbase of tow vehicle
Distance from rear trailer axle to hitch ball
Hitch components
Speed
Wind
Weight of RV
Weight distribution in the RV
Weight of tow vehicle

At least from what I read here and FB I don't see much of this information presented.

I also suspect such an equation would be different for a bumper tow vs a 5th wheel tow setup.


Just my opinion without supporting data I would not to tow that trailer with that SUV. Too much at stake not only for you and your family but also any one else that might become involved in an accident.

When we choose to do or not do something I think we need to think out side of the "me me me" bubble.
I agree with what you've said, but will add...

Tow vehicle manufacturers often publish GCWR and Frontal Area restrictions.

Most RV dealers deny knowing about these because explaining it so that their customer is informed and safe, would take time and a platform scale for the tow vehicle and trailer in order to match it up correctly.

Click on this link and check out Page 17 for "frontal area considerations" and pages 18-24 for "GCWR".


Regarding the Porsche Cayenne that was in the accident, I have searched the internet for the manufacturer's specifications, but none give frontal area specs.
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