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08-04-2010, 07:54 AM
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Air Ride
I have an Allegro 35QBA from Tiffin. As for any gas motorhome, it sways a lot as it does not have air suspension. I was wondering if someone has upgraded this type of rig with air suspension.
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08-04-2010, 08:28 AM
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Welcome to iRV2.com! We have installed supplemental airbags on our F53-based coach, more for "stealth leveling" than to control sway. Here is a thread from a couple of months ago where other posters mentioned airbags helping quite a bit, so YMMV.
Here and here are some threads discussing air ride conversions for gas chassis. If I remember correctly there was one true air ride conversion available, but the mfr stopped making it due to lack of demand.
Heavy-duty sway bars and Koni shocks are also much talked-about additions that other posters say help sway on these coaches.
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08-04-2010, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pretif
I have an Allegro 35QBA from Tiffin. As for any gas motorhome, it sways a lot as it does not have air suspension. I was wondering if someone has upgraded this type of rig with air suspension.
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I just started a new thread on this forum re: airless air bags that you may want to follow and see if anybody responds with positive results.
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08-04-2010, 09:34 AM
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Bigger anti-sway bars would probably help more than air suspension.
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08-06-2010, 01:20 PM
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Thank you all for your help. I did try bigger anti-sway bar. I have tried the Roadmaster one. I have the front one but I could not install the rear one. the Allegro 2010 has a modified F53 chassis and the rear bar don't fit anymore. I would loose the guaranty if I touch it.
Anyone that know anti-sway bar that could fit Tiffin Allegro 2010?
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08-06-2010, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2go
Welcome to iRV2.com! We have installed supplemental airbags on our F53-based coach, more for "stealth leveling" than to control sway. Here is a thread from a couple of months ago where other posters mentioned airbags helping quite a bit, so YMMV.
Here and here are some threads discussing air ride conversions for gas chassis. If I remember correctly there was one true air ride conversion available, but the mfr stopped making it due to lack of demand.
Heavy-duty sway bars and Koni shocks are also much talked-about additions that other posters say help sway on these coaches.
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Thank you. I checked your links and found an interesting solution at HWH Active Air HWH Active Air Brochures . Looks like it would address what I want.
Did someone try this it?
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08-06-2010, 01:53 PM
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pretif,
The way I read the information from HWH is that this system is for the control of the air suspension on a DP not a gass unit. I might be wrong but it states that it monitors the air bags already installed on the coach, which a gas rig comes with none.
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08-06-2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve N Sal
pretif,
The way I read the information from HWH is that this system is for the control of the air suspension on a DP not a gass unit. I might be wrong but it states that it monitors the air bags already installed on the coach, which a gas rig comes with none.
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You are correct. I just talk to them and told me the same thing. SO I am back trying to find a company that install air ride on F53 in the east coast. Any suggestions?
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08-06-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pretif
You are correct. I just talk to them and told me the same thing. SO I am back trying to find a company that install air ride on F53 in the east coast. Any suggestions?
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See post #3
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08-06-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by clifftall
See post #3
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yes. I have switched to that thread already 
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08-06-2010, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pretif
Thank you all for your help. I did try bigger anti-sway bar. I have tried the Roadmaster one. I have the front one but I could not install the rear one. the Allegro 2010 has a modified F53 chassis and the rear bar don't fit anymore. I would loose the guaranty if I touch it.
Anyone that know anti-sway bar that could fit Tiffin Allegro 2010?
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Try calling these guys and explain your problems. I'm quite sure they can help you.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f256/braz...ale-70199.html
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08-06-2010, 06:36 PM
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Pretif, did you think about changing to Koni shocks? I have an 06 Allegro Bay on a wh chassis and the Koni shocks prevented the swaying and the so called wal mart wobble. It made lots of difference in the ride and handling.
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08-07-2010, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sammie
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Pretty cool. Thanks for sharing. I will surely call them. I hope they can help me given that I am on the east coast. Good link. Tx
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08-07-2010, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dajudge
Pretif, did you think about changing to Koni shocks? I have an 06 Allegro Bay on a wh chassis and the Koni shocks prevented the swaying and the so called wal mart wobble. It made lots of difference in the ride and handling.
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did not know about koni shock. thank you.
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