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02-19-2018, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho
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Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
LOL! People have been doing this "out of the box thinking" for YEARS. 
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Really!?! I never heard of it. Why you been keeping secrets? Do we all have to reinvent the wheel or are you willing to share. I am.
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02-19-2018, 03:18 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho
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Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
LOL! People have been doing this "out of the box thinking" for YEARS. 
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OK smart guy, have they thought about this??::
So, you got your twist-on on the bottom of your y-pipe. You connect your slinky, open your twist-on valve and open your black valve. FOOM! Out comes all the black nastiness. Wow, that was fun, can I do it again?? Why, yes you can. We are gonna BACK FLUSH your black tank with your gray tank. Black tank empty, black valve open. Close twist-on valve, open gray valve. Gurgle, gurgle, gray water back-flushes into black tank. 12345, close gray valve and open twist-on valve. FOOM again -- yea! Repeat 3 times. You have back flushed your black tank several times. For even more fun -- say it ain't so -- I leave by tank flusher going the WHOLE TIME! Kids gather round!
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2006 Monaco Safari Cheetah 40PMT
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02-19-2018, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NealC
Who has a barker tank and how often do you travel with it and how often do you use it?
Being at an electric only site right now makes me want one. I did a stay a few months ago and made it 7 days as needed but really could have used a barker tank.
Problem is an under sized gray tank. Black is fine but I can fill a gray in 3-4 days.
Makes me want to get a 42 gal barker which I think will fit in the Colorado crew can bed.
I rarely am not on full hookup but I want to venture out more to state parks and places that are less expensive than hotel rooms to park my MH at.
Thoughts? Opinions?
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I have the 42 gallon one. That size can hold the entire contents of any one of my three tanks. It has pneumatic tires ant the tow-bar drops right over my TT hitch ball. I don’t use it very often, but when I do my camping buddies are envious... and end up borrowing it.
Laying on its side, it doesn’t take up too much room in the pickup bed... although it is pretty good size.
I also use it at home to dump in my septic tank... which is not close to my TT’s parking spot. I don’t dump in my home tank often, but when I do it is convenient. At home, I just hitch it to my small tractor/mower.
At the campground, I hitch it to my truck.
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02-19-2018, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: The Bluegrass State
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keymastr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyMac
Alright, here's some out-of-the-box thinking. It only works if your gray tank is mounted level or higher than your black tank. Mine are level. Get one of these:
Twist On Waste Valve, Boxed - Valterra.com | Valterra.com
It's a twist-on valve to block off the bottom of your y-pipe, rather like my unpowered Sanicon does. With the twist-on valve installed on the bottom of your y-pipe and closed, open the gray valve, it floods the y-pipe and the twist-on keeps it from exiting the y-pipe. Then open your black valve for about 5 seconds, the gray flows into your emptier black tank. 12345, close the black, close the gray. The water trapped in the y-pipe will stay there until you connect your slinky and open the twist-on valve while dumping. I do this often while dry camping. It gives you a few more days and a black tank full of gray water, which kinda flushes your black tank a bit better, I think.
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I've done these two things ever since 1980 and our first travel trailer. I just figured everyone knew about them!
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2006 Fleetwood Discovery 35H, 2014 Honda CR-V, M&G Engineering Braking System
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02-19-2018, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigd9
I've done these two things ever since 1980 and our first travel trailer. I just figured everyone knew about them!
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I've been RVing since 1968, saw the moon landing from a campground in PA. I have never heard of either till I stumbled upon them with my current rig, which has a Sanicon, making these procedures possible without the twist-on. People talk about he pro and cons of Sanicon on this forum all the time, but nobody mentions these steps. Ok, but everyone knows, they just like keeping secrets. Wow, that says alot about those who know....yeah, right.
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05-27-2018, 03:22 PM
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A suggestion for those who would like a gauge of some kind for their portable waste tanks.
A number of classic general aviation aircraft such as the Piper J-3 Cub don't have electrical systems and have fuel tanks behind the firewall and in front of the pilot. They often use a wire fastened securely to a cork which sticks up through a small hole in the top of the tank. The top end of the wire is bent at a 90° angle which keeps it from falling back through the hole when the tank is empty. When the tank is full the entire wire is visible above the tank.
If I ever get an aux waste tank I intend to modify it with a cork or metal float and wire gauge drilled probably through a small hole in the vent cap. I may go with an auto type float and soldered bronze wire to avoid rust issues.
Or, I might adapt a mechanical gauge from a source like www.aircaftspruce.com or www.univair.com.
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05-27-2018, 03:48 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: SoCal
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I have a 42 gallon barker tank. Use with our motorhome - carry it on the rear ladder. Yes its heavy when full- of course. But you don't have to always fill it full. I tow it to the dump station with the toad. Most often i have it in the roadway and use a macerating pump to move the waste into the tank. This avoids having to manhandle it to get it close to the cause if the coach - over grass, around stuff, etc.
The biggest problem I have is it the dump station is a distance away such that I can't tow it. With putting it in your truck bed you don't have this problem.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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05-28-2018, 07:11 AM
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Location: Massachusetts
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I have a 35 gallon plastic drum which I lay on its side in the back of the pickup. I have a regular sewer hose valve installed in one of the bungs. I fill it with a macerator pump in the top bung. The drum is a light white color which you can see the water level in. Drive to dump station and connect sewer hose to valve and empty. Drum was free. Had to buy valve and pump.
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05-28-2018, 11:52 AM
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Location: Titusville, FL
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I've carried the Barker type tanks in the past and when you need one there's nothing better. Don't need it very often.
I never liked carrying it on the ladder and found, on every motorhome I've owned, I could use ratchet straps and secure the tank between the frame rails underneath the motorhome. A little difficult to get to it but you don't need it very often and it's well out of the way stored up there.
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05-28-2018, 03:31 PM
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I do what Tonymac does but I have a clear extension so I can see what is happening in the pipe.Don't want a surprise when I open the valve.I don't have the valve ,just a cap with the hose connection and a small hose shutoff to drain the pipe.
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05-28-2018, 03:41 PM
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Location: Vancouver Wash
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Just say'n, Therford tanks have a built in gauge....
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05-28-2018, 07:50 PM
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RVM 18
Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Yuma County, AZ
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I bought a recycled 35 gallon plastic barrel that has a dump valve attached and a good hand truck that I can pull behind my toad. I've got about $150 invested in both. Compared to the Blue Boys I've seen, my setup has bigger, better wheels.
I open the bung so I can see the level in the tank and to vent the barrel. No cork and wire required.
I saw another DIY dump tank in Quartzsite that had a macerator pump, 12v battery and 20 watt solar panel all fitted together.
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05-28-2018, 10:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NealC
Problem is an under sized gray tank. Black is fine but I can fill a gray in 3-4 days.
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I just looked up the specs on your tanks and they are the same as we had: 105 fresh; 65 gray; 45 black
You didn't say how many travel in your MH but for the two of us we could last 12 - 14 days on our gray tank and still have room in the black and still fresh water left.
That includes emptying our dish water in the toilet instead of down the drain and taking quick showers and never leaving water running for washing hands, brushing teeth. We didn't do dishes after every meal - wiped them with a used paper towel and kept in the dishpan below the sink in the cabinet until we had enough to do one batch. Same goes for frypans or vegetable cooking pot. We almost always grilled outside. Wipe them out and reuse them.
Are you conserving water as best you can? 3-4 days to fill the gray is really fast.
When we had our 5th wheel we had a portable tank and used it so seldom it was more bother hauling it around than it was worth to us. We found when two weeks is up we are ready to move on anyway and dump on the way.
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05-28-2018, 10:44 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: SoCal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
Just say'n, Therford tanks have a built in gauge....
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My Barker blue boy has a gauge / inducator.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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