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thebignewt · 06-14-2016, 01:40 PM

Newby here. So far I've found PPL RV in Texas. I've done Craigslist in/near Phoenix. Is there a larger source of used RVs for sale nation wide? And what's the "KBB/Edmunds" of new and used RV prices? I'm looking Winnebago Trend/Fuse Itasca Viva 23 footers, 2015-16 so probably not a lot out there. It's even hard to find a dealer with new ones in Phoenix. Thanks in advance.

Pepper2 · 06-14-2016, 01:43 PM

RV Trader and RVT are two of the largest. Also NADA for some pricing ideas.

tderonne · 06-14-2016, 01:59 PM

There's a 23L on the Vegas Craigslist, too far?
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2015 Trend 23L at NADA site

$55K (low retail) is the number to use.

vsheetz · 06-14-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepper2

RV Trader and RVT are two of the largest. Also NADA for some pricing ideas.

Agree these are the two largest sources.

jacwjames · 06-14-2016, 04:07 PM

Ebay Motors has a pretty large selection of newer to older RV's.

I bought our current coach from a EBAY seller, 2002 Windsor, we bought in 2008. Got a great deal, probably 1/2 of NADA value at the time so it's still worth ~75% of what we paid 7 years ago.

thebignewt · 06-14-2016, 06:18 PM

Thanks! So when you go look at the dealership they have the sticker price and it's always discounted, so you look at the "discounted" price. So Thor ACE, $120k sticker and they say $80k new. That's 33% off right there, and they ain't done are they? How low do they go on these things? It looks like there's way more markup than on cars.

Gary RVRoamer · 06-15-2016, 06:04 AM

A typical discount on a new RV is anywhere between 15% (almost every seller) and 35% (a few). That's an actual discount, not figuring any trade allowances, and assumes no extra charges for "prep" or "PDI" or whatever. It has become increasingly common for some dealers to quote a steep discount price but then add in what would otherwise be a normal cost of doing business, e.g. the dealer prep of the unit and the "walk-through" or "inspection" by the buyer. Also, that's a discount from a factory MSRP + transport costs, not some fictitious "list price" the dealer has invented. adding in $1000 for an "interior protection package" (a can of Scotchguard spray) and then discounting $1000 is hardly a bargain.

If a dealer offers 30%+ discount without any real negotiation, my alarms bells would go off cause I figure he is going to try to get some of that back elsewhere in the deal. There is a lot of mark-up in the RV MSRP, but there is also a lot of expense involved in selling and delivering one, and the dealer has to cover the costs somewhere. A high volume dealer can often do better than a small one, though, simply by selling more rigs and spreading his fixed costs further.

caninecop · 06-15-2016, 06:13 AM

These guys have a big selection: Texas RV Dealer, Used RVs for sale, motorhome sales, new RVs

tderonne · 06-15-2016, 08:19 AM

To get to the bottom of all the dealer "list" price and fake add ons, you want to email Winnebago owner relations (or@winnebagoind.com) and ask them for a "retail price list" for the model you're looking at (they have old ones too). They'll send you a pdf right away.

Here's one for a 2017 23L:

thebignewt · 06-15-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tderonne

To get to the bottom of all the dealer "list" price and fake add ons, you want to email Winnebago owner relations (or@winnebagoind.com) and ask them for a "retail price list" for the model you're looking at (they have old ones too). They'll send you a pdf right away.

Here's one for a 2017 23L:

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Thanks.