Bridges and Roads: RV's to pay a lions share?

[CampingCajun]

Stop giving monies to the United Nations & also to our "friends" around the world who are trying to kill us.

[miniceptor86]

I don't like high gas prices any more than you do but I would rather keep it simple and economical, getting the most benefit for my tax dollar. To me the simplest is using the already in place fuel tax. Or I guess you could add to the cost of infrastructure and upkeep by by adding toll booths, increase travel time and wear and tear on the nations fleet of cars, decrease gas mileage. One good thing though is it would add jobs, hopefully good paying ones for the poor ones that get the winter overnights and blizzard shifts.

Privatization? So top the of the corporation can draw an exorbitant salary and benefits, buy up multiple contracts, provide poor service?

[purrin along]

It cost us $84.00 to cross the George Washington bridge last summer,
to go to a charity event.New York has seen the last of me. The worst thing
is, the roads and bridges are pretty sad.

[Timtoolman]

As a Native New Yorker I thought we were better off in Pa due to lower taxes, property , Gas , things change , pa turnpike isn't the cheapest. Either but gun laws are better and I'm retired military , no property taxes for me ,
They talked about privatization with the turnpike here but nothing yet , just corruption with state officials on that issue . Now a "soda " tax in Philadelphia. Getting pricy in Pa. for gas , road usage and soda And tire purchase tax .

[Timtoolman]

Filling up gas tank in philly and using turnpike to the Ohio border can be expensive towing a travel trailer with tandems. Thank god they don't have tolls On I -80 here yet .

[ArmandV]

Originally Posted by palehorse89

Refinery located in Warren,pa. ...........owns all Kwik Fill/Country Fair gas station's...........

Regular2.69

Diesel2.99

You're not alone. Those are California prices.

[Timtoolman]

2.99 for 93 also . Diesel was at last look 2.89

[Twomed]

Originally Posted by CampingCajun

Stop giving monies to the United Nations & also to our "friends" around the world who are trying to kill us.

X2...us or them... choose U.S.

[Gary RVRoamer]

I can see tolls for some major bridges and superhighways, but much of the infrastructure that needs replacement is local stuff, where the cost of collecting tolls and the impact on local travel would be onerous. IMO, only fuel taxes or local/regional general taxes are a viable way to do that. So I'm split, favoring more tolls where it is practical for the direct users to pay the lion's share, and a broader tax base for everything else.

We've been living off the existing infrastructure for 30 or more years in most places, with little maintenance and no reserves set aside for eventual replacement. Sot of like using our highway credit card all these years, and making only the minimum monthly payment. Now we have a huge bill that nobody wants to pay. It's gonna hurt, no matter how we do it.

We enjoy the cheapest motor fuels in the western world, yet have the largest road network to maintain. We are just gonna have to pony up higher fuel costs to handle it.

I gotta agree that it's crazy to be sending money elsewhere when our own house is falling apart. Humanitarian aid is nice, and military aid is sometimes useful, but we don't have pockets deep enough to afford it any longer.

[RPreeb]

Originally Posted by Timtoolman

2.99 for 93 also . Diesel was at last look 2.69

Right now $2.33 at the Co-Op pump for 87 midgrade (in CO, regular is 85). Last week when I filled up it was $2.13, so apparently the colder weather has put a premium on petroleum products. Still nothing like it was for a while. I'm going to hate filling up my 36 gallon tank when/if the price gets back up in the $4 range.

We lived in the Bahamas for 2 years, and with gas there at more than $6 per gallon, anything in the US seems like a bargain.

[Superslif]

Filling up gas tank in philly and using turnpike to the Ohio border can be expensive towing a travel trailer with tandems. Thank god they don't have tolls On I -80 here yet .

Agreed. Towing a tandem axle trailer on the PA. turn-pike you are charged triple what a car pays. I try to avoid that part of the state. Used to go almost every year to Laurel Hill State Park and then Kennywood Amusement Park in Pittsburgh. But ever since they upper the tolls back about 10 years ago, we don't go that often. I guess it's a smart play by the state to try to keep people from vacationing in their state by raising to tolls. And this way less wear and tear on the secondary roads and bridges.

[Timtoolman]

I work for Penndot and our money comes from fuel taxes and a lot of roads and bridges are getting fixed. But our wages aren't going up .
Expect al lot of. Small items being taxed in the future for "state / federal revenue" coming in the future.
Not to sound mean but yes fuel tax and cost in other countries are very high for Revenue purposes. Sorry for them , but there isn't a reason ours need to be high as theirs. Sooner or later I bet fuel tax will be more than the product it's. Taxing.

[palehorse89]

Originally Posted by Timtoolman

I work for Penndot and our money comes from fuel taxes and a lot of roads and bridges are getting fixed. But our wages aren't going up .

Speaking for the "Worker's" in Warren county..............the spot paving they have done over the last couple of years to our road's.............the state should decrease their pay!
Until they take more "Pride" in their work!
Spot paving should not be allowed!(Done by the state) the roads were smoother with pot holes!

[Superslif]

I'm glad they never sold I-80 running across the northern part of PA. to an overseas country like they talked about a few years back. Why take a non-toll road and sell it after your state tax( and Federal) dollars built it and sell it to India? And they turn it into a new toll road.