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09-08-2009, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
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Campgrounds charge for guests!
I don't know how everyone else feels, but I would like to invite people to my rv to spend the day visiting or just for dinner, but they get stopped at the gate and have to pay to visit! This really bothers me. It does not happen at my stickbuilt.
Whats your feeling and/or workaround?
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09-08-2009, 06:26 PM
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I don't like it either, nor do I like paying extra for electricity.
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09-08-2009, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Wellington, Florida
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Hi OldHiker,
I am like you. This past summer I noticed CGs, in general, are going the way of KOA and the airlines. Charge a base rate and then add on charges for everything they can get away with.
My work around is that I do not return. I vote with my $s. I let the CG management know this (politely of course).
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09-08-2009, 07:05 PM
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Senior Member
Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club
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We frequent Texas State Parks and COE parks and charging for extra people has been a long standing practice of theirs. Actually, I'm in favor of it. They are also supposed to limit the number of people and cars on any one site but people tend to abuse those guidelines. Our last trip to the State Park had 15 people and 5 cars on the site across from us. I don't mind what folks do as long as they don't impact me but there is no way to get that many people and cars on a typical site without having an impact on those around them.
I figure that without the per person charges, the problems would only be worse. When we have guests, I gladly pay for them. It doesn't happen all of that often - we follow the rule that the RV only sleeps 2
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09-08-2009, 07:08 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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If you invited your friends to a ballgame, wouldn't you expect to pay for their tickets? You paid to stay in your camper on someone else's private property (i.e. the campground). Why wouldn't a guest of yours be charged for their day use of that same private property?
Your workaround is being a sport and paying for your guests before they get there. Then they feel like VIPs when the guard waves them through the gate.
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09-09-2009, 01:25 AM
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National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Not sure if the OP meant his guests are just staying for the day in his rig or staying overnight. If they (guests) are just visiting for the day and leaving, then I think the fee is unwarranted. If they're indeed staying overnight, and in a private campground, then I agree that they should be paying.
In our state parks, the maximum occupancy allowed per site is 8. If over, then somebody has to pay. Of course, private campgrounds are specific about their requirement - 2 person/per site (RV).
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09-09-2009, 02:28 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Most CG that I know that charge for daily guest are those that offer a bit of service as well, like pools, tennis courts etc. I think it is fair to charge a nominal fee for day use. How can the CG operator know that these are guest and not just people that want to use the facilities. If everybody gets treated equal, nobody can argue.
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09-09-2009, 07:56 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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We use the same CG in the San Antonio, Texas area all the time and can understand why CG,s charge extra.
Easter weekend 07 we were watching how 5 members of the campground [it is a C2C] invited 21 other non paying friends for a total of 26 tents on those 5 sites. The owner just happen to come by for the Easter sunrise service and just went crazy. Fired everyone working that weekend.
The CG lost 21X35 or $735.00. The owner before that problem would let us stay for $15 per night non-C2C week, now if I don't want to pay $35 per night for my out week I have to move.
Just a few ruin it for the rest of us.
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09-09-2009, 08:30 AM
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Texas Boomers Club
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We were guests of some friends of ours a few years back before we bought our TT. Our friends have a motorhome and were staying in a nice park in south Texas. We were only there for the day so they told us to call when we got close to the park. They came and got us and brought us in the park in THEIR car (we left our at a store down the road) - this way, we avoided the daily charge. I don't feel bad about this because all we did was sit in their rig and talk and catch up. Now, if my kids had used the pool, etc or if we were staying with them overnight?, sure I wouldn't have minded the charge. But just to go sit in a rig for a few hours? Sorry, I don't feel bad about avoiding the fee.
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09-09-2009, 07:03 PM
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Having worked in campgrounds for several years, I have seen numerous times how some people abuse guest privileges. That results in permits and fees, to the detriment of everyone else. I hate guest fees too (when we have guests), but understand why they exist.
That said, I have driven my guests in via my own vehicle on occasion too. More often, though, a pleasant word with the host gets me a "free pass" if I explain my guest aren't bringing a big family for the day and will just sit at my campsite for a few hours.
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09-10-2009, 05:44 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club
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There is a lot of overhead in a State Park or private campground. If either publishes rules that require an admittance fee and you want to have guests, someone needs to pay for them. If this is a big concern, shouldn't you make yourself aware of it before you stay there?
Like everyone else (other than campground owners), I am not a fan of admittance fees, but if the rules are plainly published, you should either pay or not stay there.
When it comes to day use at State Parks, I am happy to pay. In Texas, camping there is a bargain. Except for a brief period when the state legislature had their heads up their butts a little farther than usual, they are well maintained by dedicated staff. With the rates they charge, they need all the income they can get.
Campgrounds have a lot of amentities. If someone doesn't pay for them, will they be there the next time you want to use them?
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09-10-2009, 05:49 AM
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After I re-read my post, I realized that I may have been a little harsh. I edited it, bit some of you may have gotten a copy of it in its original form. If I offended anyone, I apologize. That was not my intent.
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09-10-2009, 07:13 AM
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Well I thought it was greedy to charge for guests. Well after reading all the posts and seeing over loaded campsites with many familyies. I re-thought my opion because we like a relaxing area. Just my oppion!!!!
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09-10-2009, 09:39 PM
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Quite a response, but I really did not make myself clear or qualify the question. Let me restate it.
I object to commercial campgrounds charging for guests who visit us. When I used to stay in hotels while traveling, there was never a charge if someone came to my room. As a matter of fact, all guests enter the hotel free. I also rented a condo from time to time and never a guest charge. Now I own a motor home and the only place to park it is at a campground where I pay a nightly parking fee. They charge me to park. Do I get a refund if I am not there all day? No.
I was not referring to public campgrounds where every visitor pays a fee.
It just creates a hassle. Yes, I can be a big shot and pay the $5 fee, but that really is not the point.
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