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Old 09-27-2022, 06:09 PM   #1
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Campsite stakers.

I see this more and more, people booking a site, setting up and disappearing on Sunday afternoon only to reappear on the weekend. Leaving a prime site occupied with an RV but not being used, thus depriving someone else the use of the site.
We're currently at a COE campground in Illinois where this is happening. Waterfront lake sites. Part of the problem is the Senior Pass makes these sites so inexpensive that it's worth it to them to spend $45 for the week to have a guaranteed site for the weekend.
I'm not even sure it violates the rules as I couldn't find anything about sites must be occupied. It is however, annoying and incredibly selfish. It's abuse of the system and it's going to ruin it for the rest of us.
What are your thoughts on this?
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I agree. It's selfish. If not going to use it during the week, why reserve it? Are you sure it's reserved and they just placed their stuff on a first come site? If so, I believe that's not allowed at the Corp parks.

Isn't there a Corp office nearby to talk to about this? Or a Corp person?
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They paid for it, they can use it however they want.
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I agree. It's selfish. If not going to use it during the week, why reserve it? Are you sure it's reserved and they just placed their stuff on a first come site? If so, I believe that's not allowed at the Corp parks.

Isn't there a Corp office nearby to talk to about this? Or a Corp person?

All reservation-only sites here. I don't think the camp hosts enforce it and I have yet to see a ranger.
Maybe because it's off peak season no one cares? Still, it just doesn't seem right.
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We saw similar at Ives Run, a COE near Tioga, PA.

Sites have a post where your reservation ticket can be found. Some sites were ticketed and empty while others were occupied and seemingly abandoned. The camp host didn't seem to care one way or the other.

We found out it is common practice to reserve a number of sites in different areas of the park to get around the two week time limit. People would spend the entire season there moving around every two weeks.
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Yep, selfish or not, they paid for the site. They can be on it or not.

A local park allowed people to book back to back to back weekends & they could leave the RV on the site for free during the week, unhooked of course. They even promoted it by offering a 10% discount for the 1st weekend, 15% discount for the 2nd & 20% for the 3rd. I took advantage of that offer at least 2x. Hogging a site? Maybe. I saw no problem, especially since the park encouraged it.
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Yep, selfish or not, they paid for the site. They can be on it or not.

A local park allowed people to book back to back to back weekends & they could leave the RV on the site for free during the week, unhooked of course. They even promoted it by offering a 10% discount for the 1st weekend, 15% discount for the 2nd & 20% for the 3rd. I took advantage of that offer at least 2x. Hogging a site? Maybe. I saw no problem, especially since the park encouraged it.

Privately owned park or public? A privately owned park can do what they want and live or die by their policies. A public park, not so much.
My opinion, this should not be allowed in public recreation areas/parks.
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If it were me I would try to find a Ranger or camp host and ask questions. Then see what kind of story you get. Might be a good reason why it is being done.
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They paid for it, they can use it however they want.


damn straight. Itís their money, the cg is collecting revenue, if they want to use it 4 out of 7 days, their choice.
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If I were the camp host, and was showing a higher than average week to week occupancy with lower water, trash, and power cost, I doubt my bosses would be all that upset. DR
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We stayed at a state park in Kansas that was like this. Numerous sites with RVs but no occupants until the weekend. Found out people can buy a site for the season. Apparently it’s a limited number of sites that locals enter a lottery to get. While the park was never full during the week, some of these sites were among the more desirable.
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Pretty common for private campgrounds to have mostly seasonal sites that get used mainly on weekends. They ususlly have some sites for transients. Why should people haul their RV's home after the weekend and back again the following weekend? Most of those lots would sit empty anyway.
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It definitely depends on who owns the campground. For example, we were at Lee’s Ferry, an NPS campground on the Colorado River. Someone had gone through and put tickets on numerous sites for almost 2 weeks in the future, but it was a FCFS campground. We were confused and asked the campground host. They bristled out and pulled all the tags. They said they were going to talk to the ranger too, just to make sure there were no problems when the (inevitably irate) site hogger came in. As for COE parks with reservations, it definitely costs less to reserve a week well in advance to make sure you get the weekend, then change the reservation to just the weekend. One reservation change fee is less than 5 days, even at senior discount rates. It doesn’t make sense.
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They paid for it, they can use it however they want.
Here is a link to a pdf of the rules for COE parks around my area, east Texas.

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One of the rules, section 327.7, states:
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c) The unauthorized placement of camping equipment or other items on a campsite and/or personal appearance at a campsite without daily occupancy for the purpose of reserving that campsite for future occupancy is prohibited.
Unfortunately, at least at a couple of COE parks we like to visit, these and other rules aren't enforced.
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