RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-24-2020, 12:23 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hemet, CA
Posts: 83
Can I use VCT Adhesive "Roberts 2057" on a floating vinyl floor?

I have heard that floating floors can get gaps in between the planks from expansion from the going from cold to hot. Also we live in our RV full-time so there will be a lot of foot traffic.

Saw one guy on YouTube use the Roberts 2057 clear adhesive so as to slow down this process... it still will give but not as much as the adhesive is not permanent but flexable (tile is applied after it has dried and the glue is tacky).

Note: Underlayment is pre-attached to the plank flooring.

Pros: Because it is tacky tile can still be pulled up and reapplied. It would also make it easier to fix a damaged tile in the future as it could be cut out without disturbing the other tiles.

Cons: ?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficM...6X36/312650275

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Roberts-...57-1/100144842

Appreciate any feedback on this. Someone who's been there done that would be great to hear from : )

Today we are prepping and leveling the floor... hope to install the tiles tomorrow : )
__________________
1995 Gulfstream Yellowstone Capri wide body, (W6293ZH). Chassis: 1994 E350, 460CID, Fed emissions, 4 speed w/od trans, 4:10 gears. 71K miles.
kctrading is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 09-24-2020, 12:44 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Airboss68's Avatar


 
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: SD
Posts: 573
Quote:
I have heard that floating floors can get gaps in between the planks from expansion from the going from cold to hot. Also we live in our RV full-time so there will be a lot of foot traffic.
The entire floor should expand and contract at the same rate, thus should not create gaps if left floating.

Gluing down a floating floor, in my opinion is asking for humps and bumps as well as gaps when it expands and contracts no matter how pliable or elastic the glue.

I just finished replacing my carpet with a floating floor. Left it floating and left a 1/4" gap around the perimeter for expansion.

We too live in our unit full time. Time will tell which is the right option bu the purpose of "floating is to avoid the problems associated with expansion and contraction.
__________________

2004 Travel Supreme Select 45DSO4
Towing 2018 Ford Flex 4 down
Jarhead 67-71
Airboss68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2020, 02:25 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
bob caldwell's Avatar


 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Vancouver Wash
Posts: 7,078
You can use a moulding to cover up the 1/4" gaps......
__________________
2010 Rockwood Sig Ultra lite 5er 8280......'99 Ram 2500, Cummins. 4x4.....Pullrite Superglide.........
bob caldwell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2020, 02:45 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 743
I have floating snap together vinyl in 6 apartments. I installed it about 3 years ago and have not had any issues to date for the floors that I installed. One I had a contractor install has some separation issues but I'm certain it was due to improper installation. In my experience don't leave to much of a gap at the edges and you must use some type of shoe molding or quarter round on the edges as that is what keeps the floor down. As long as your joints are tight when you put the flooring down I think you will be fine. You also need to make sure that your floor is completely smooth. The slightest imperfection will show up in the flooring in short order. Good luck.
arcaguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2020, 02:56 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 173
Problems arise when there is extreme temperature changes where campers are stored during the winter and hot summers. Most manufacturers will have a temperature variance listed on the box.

If you are full timing, you’ll be fine since you are controlling the temperature.

Don’t use any adhesive. Floating floors should float.
TMyers17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2020, 06:05 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hemet, CA
Posts: 83
Next step?

Ok, so no glue will be used. I've got it prepped ready to install. No staples, filled in the low spots, etc.

No where do I start and what pattern do I use? We stack all the lookalike planks in 5 piles and there are inside the rv at room temp (90f)

One friend said to start at the front left corner behind the drivers seat....we want to run it from front to back put not sure on the pattern.

Thanks guys!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200925_170639.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	160.5 KB
ID:	302338   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200925_170647.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	161.2 KB
ID:	302339  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20200925_170655.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	181.9 KB
ID:	302340  
kctrading is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2020, 07:06 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 29
A random pattern would be best, when you cut the last piece in a run you use it as the first piece in the next run. If the seams end up too close cut the starter piece shorter or use a new piece. If you try to do a fancy pattern, you would end up with a lot of waste from the cuts.
If you can wait until its cooler, it might be better. If you install at 90 degrees the floor will shrink a lot when its 0 degrees out.
MSchu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2020, 08:19 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hemet, CA
Posts: 83
Good to know. Were installing it tomorrow...I'll leave the AC on
__________________
1995 Gulfstream Yellowstone Capri wide body, (W6293ZH). Chassis: 1994 E350, 460CID, Fed emissions, 4 speed w/od trans, 4:10 gears. 71K miles.
kctrading is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2020, 08:26 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Bobby F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: MN
Posts: 792
Leave the 1/4" gap around the outside as per the directions, and then fill that gap in with a thick bead of clear silicone. It will seal against wet stuff getting in under the flooring, and it will be elastic enough to take up expansion (while also exerting a force compressing the flooring so as to avoid gaps forming in the interior.)
__________________
------------------------------------

1993 Rockwood 28' Class C - Ford E-350 7.5L
Bobby F is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2020, 08:46 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
capnqball's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NW OREGON
Posts: 404
You should measure the width of your floor to ensure you don't end up with the last row ending in a sliver of a full piece (speaking of widthwise). Split the difference between the first row and the last row. Do these measurements to check also where the bathroom (for instance, as I don't know your floor plan) comes into play. You may have to juggle some widths. Pre measurements can save some headache later.
__________________
Ron in NW Oregon
2017 Ventana 3436
2008 Honda CRV AWD
capnqball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2020, 09:16 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 173
Start with a whole piece and finish that run to the wall. The piece you cut off the end of the first row will start the second row and so on. This will keep a random pattern and keep your waste down. The floor will want to move around so cut some 1/4” spacers and put them at the walls.

As a rule, we don’t let joints hit closer than 6” from the run next to it.
TMyers17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2020, 11:40 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Airboss68's Avatar


 
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: SD
Posts: 573
You have already done the hardest and most important part, preparation.

Pattern and starting point ar individual decisions.

Now measure, measure, measure, and take your time.

All of the above make good points, I think those quoted below are really cogent.

Quote:
Leave the 1/4" gap around the outside as per the directions, and then fill that gap in with a thick bead of clear silicone. It will seal against wet stuff getting in under the flooring, and it will be elastic enough to take up expansion (while also exerting a force compressing the flooring so as to avoid gaps forming in the interior.)

If you can wait until its cooler, it might be better. If you install at 90 degrees the floor will shrink a lot when its 0 degrees out.

You should measure the width of your floor to ensure you don't end up with the last row ending in a sliver of a full piece (speaking of widthwise). Split the difference between the first row and the last row. Do these measurements to check also where the bathroom (for instance, as I don't know your floor plan) comes into play. You may have to juggle some widths. Pre measurements can save some headache later.
Good look and when done we want pictures.
__________________

2004 Travel Supreme Select 45DSO4
Towing 2018 Ford Flex 4 down
Jarhead 67-71
Airboss68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2020, 12:50 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Bowtie Jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 103
I was going to use vinyl plank flooring in my TT to replace the original linoleum.
I decided not to because of the huge temperature swing here in Minnesota. Inside a closed up TT on a 90° day it could easily be 115+ . Just the opposite in winter could be -30°. I was afraid I'd open the door on a 90° day and see the flooring all buckled.
I used some cheap laminate flooring and left a 3/8" gap around the perimeter. It's survived the summer so I'm happy.
__________________
02 Keystone Hornet Lite 25 FL
18 Silverado Dbl.5.3 6sp 3.42 stock ( grunt truck)
18 Silverado Crew 5.3 6sp 3.42 9" lift 37's(fun truck)
Bowtie Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2020, 06:21 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 969
I glue them down in my rentals, but so cal has moderate temp swings and the concrete slabs really moderate the floor temp. Love them glued down, totally waterproof, no slapping noise when you walk on them. Not sure about how they would act in a motorhome but with some of the slightly expanding glues they use for hardwood on slabs I don't think you could ever get them up.
shootist is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
adhesive, floor, vinyl



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ti-VCT V6 Ford engine BeckyFe Class C Motorhome Discussions 1 10-10-2018 03:28 PM
Adhesive floor to vinyl ernied7 Class A Motorhome Discussions 2 05-18-2018 09:44 AM
Ray Roberts RV Park, Tx TX2Harts Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports 10 07-15-2013 05:28 AM
Exclusive: Fran Roberts Discusses Camping World Buyout DriVer RV Industry Press 18 08-27-2012 08:54 AM
Gold Canyon RV Resort by Roberts Resorts toban Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports 2 10-08-2007 07:36 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.