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cvrvr · 05-18-2008, 06:42 AM

One brand of motorhome that I will never have to think about or look at.

I don't do Chinese if I can help it.

George

Northern-Canadian · 05-19-2008, 04:50 AM

I am happy to hear about a new manufacturer for the industry if nothing else to force the current MH Companies to improve innovation and construction methods, but don't look for this family to be buying a Chinese build MH.

I have nothing against the Chinese other than all their industries must be based on producing quantity rather than quality products. It is hard to teach patience and pride to workers making little or no money, and knowing that they will never be able to consider buying items like this in their lifetime, why would they care how well they were constructed?

Quality control has been an issue in many developing countries for decades and I would cautious when spending that much money on a new company's item, knowing what problems China has had with other consumer products.

Prevost82 · 05-20-2008, 07:30 PM

Well ... the wage that chinese workers earn is not low to their standards, they are to ours and they're probably very happy working for the wage they make.

That's one of the reasons that fuel is so high ... they to can affort stuff, it all relative. I also can remember back in the 60's & 70's when Japan started shipping car & stuff over here ... we said the same thing. Now if we want quality cars and electronics where do we buy it from ... Japan.

NeilV · 05-21-2008, 12:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Prevost82:
Well ... the wage that chinese workers earn is not low to their standards, they are to ours and they're probably very happy working for the wage they make.

That's one of the reasons that fuel is so high ... they to can affort stuff, it all relative. I also can remember back in the 60's & 70's when Japan started shipping car & stuff over here ... we said the same thing. Now if we want quality cars and electronics where do we buy it from ... Japan. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I was a kid if you wanted good quality you bought American, High end you bought German and Cheap Junk it was obviously Japanese. The other day I was in a store and the salesman was telling me if I wanted the good stuff I would have to consider the Chinese products, Japanese if I wanted high end and Korean for the cheap junk. I asked about American and he said most was getting outsourced to the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans anyways so it was a mixed bag and harder to tell what you would be getting.

Things have changed quite a bit since we were kids.

DESERTFOX19 · 05-22-2008, 01:15 PM

I used to work in the rv industry an since 2003 they have been using a lot of chinese parts and there is a lot more to come. Most of the parts fail very quick they don't last long. They pay almost nothing for these chinese parts but when the hit the retail market they sell them for the same price as the US made parts. That is real sad for us.

OC-RV · 05-22-2008, 02:17 PM

I've never bought a foreign car and would never buy a foreign made RV. Unfortunately many American manufacturers have been driven out of business by: unjust government tax and purchasing policy; multi-national corporate greed; a "global" propaganda; stupidity on our part for buying foreign products. I understand that many foreign cars are built in the USA and that many American cars have foreign made parts. I don't pretend to know the answer but I will try to BUY AMERICAN.

Big Ranger · 03-17-2009, 07:38 AM

I saw a MH on a lot last year with a Mercedes-Benz diesel in it. Can't remember the name of the coach, but it was not familiar to me at the time.
Can anyone enlighten me? Have you seen or heard of the MB diesel in a MH?
Cheers.

Oemtech · 03-17-2009, 08:05 AM

Coachman - Sports Coach line

SeeTheUSA · 03-17-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Ranger

I saw a MH on a lot last year with a Mercedes-Benz diesel in it. Can't remember the name of the coach, but it was not familiar to me at the time.
Can anyone enlighten me? Have you seen or heard of the MB diesel in a MH?
Cheers.

Several manufacturers build on the Dodge/Freightliner Sprinter chassis --- it is a Mercedes product with a diesel engine. Winnebago started the trend back in 2005 with their View and Navion models. They have become very popular. VERY good fuel efficiency.

DynaMax makes some beautiful rigs using large Mercedes chassis. If I ever win the lottery, I'll trade our Winnebago View for one of those! Maybe this one:

http://www.dynamaxcorp.com/products....nd-sport-ultra

Wayne M · 03-17-2009, 09:02 AM

Years ago the company I was working for was pulling 14,000 pounds with a 1 ton 454 Chevy. It got 4 mpg when pulling. I convinced them to go with a bigger vehicle and in my searching found a Mercedes with a long box on it. Bought it for $8k and they converted it to an 8 foot bed with rails and goose neck. It was a great engine and got 10-12 mpg with the same load. Size wise it was considered a 2-1/2 ton and I'd go with a Mercedes enging again if the opportunty availed itself.

dieselclacker · 03-17-2009, 10:02 AM

Mercedes Benz does build some fine products, including the diesel engines used in many larger truck applications, and more recently some lines of motorhomes. An owner of one of these diesel powered vehicles can only hope that it never needs parts or repairs that are provided by Diamler Benz AG.

!! You think Cummins engines are expensive.

Dieselclacker

doc · 03-17-2009, 12:13 PM

So if China builds it, will WalMart sell them ?

Ken Roberts · 03-17-2009, 02:08 PM

Isn't it odd that the Chinese are ready to jump into the U.S. market where they really do not have a presence in our auto market. It also seems kinda quirky to me that they are going into the high end pusher market vs. Bs or Cs or fivers, etc. Hey, what do I know I am not their marketing guru, Ken...

Fred and Bonnie · 03-17-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC-RV

I've never bought a foreign car and would never buy a foreign made RV. Unfortunately many American manufacturers have been driven out of business by: unjust government tax and purchasing policy; multi-national corporate greed; a "global" propaganda; stupidity on our part for buying foreign products. I understand that many foreign cars are built in the USA and that many American cars have foreign made parts. I don't pretend to know the answer but I will try to BUY AMERICAN.

Good coments John, what percentage of your "American" car is actually "Made in America"? I will guess not as much as your would think.

Fred