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Old 09-22-2014, 08:30 AM   #15
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Unfortunately, we're all preaching to the choir here. I would bet that those of us that frequent the forums pull over when necessary as we're the informed bunch. There are a lot of people who don't use the forums for educational discussion, so they blindly go about their way holding up 15 cars. That said, you'd think it would be common courtesy and common sense, but those things seem to be lacking nowadays.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:58 AM   #16
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While going for a Sunday night ride around the 3 city lakes (mpls) with the top down on my 64 I always pull over if there are more than 2 cars behind me. I'm in no hurry (like to look @ the eye candy) they must be so I let them pass then contiune around the lakes untill I need to pull over again. I will do the same in the country side as I will be full timing and will not be in any hurry like I said, I like too SEE the eye Candie
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:30 PM   #17
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Fact, noone wants to be behind a huge wall that blocks their view ahead. Driving the speed limit in the MH, someone will endanger everyone by passing just so they can get ahead so they can see ahead. I try to be a thoughtful and courteous driver, but you can't please everyone.
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:58 PM   #18
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We also leave plenty of room between us and the vehicle ahead of us in case someone just has to pass and then has a place to tuck in.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:11 AM   #19
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I agree regarding the uninformed drivers, but I'll add those that don't know how, or just aren't in the habit of using their outside rear view mirrors.....

Absolutely clueless. They wouldn't notice a fully lit fire truck behind them, let alone a string of cars.

The jerks driving semis that take miles to pass are an irritation here as well. They live in a 65mph world and figure you should participate as well....
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:44 AM   #20
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For most part agree, especially when in known National Parks - but that's where everyone should be going somewhat slower to take in the scenery or better still pulling over in designated areas to stop. It drives us crazy when folks (several!) stop dead on the highway on a bend to view wildlife with no thought of blocking traffic or a potential accident. Then get out their cars running back and forth across the highway trying to get a better photo or worse still hoping to stroke one. We see this one all the time and shake our heads.

What about those that are doing the speed limit or even a mile or two over and the idiot that wants to ride on their tail real tight behind - the ignorant truckers that do that and sandwich my car between them and the big semi in front and there's no way to overtake on the bends or double lines safely. I always pull over on the hard shoulder, out of fear and intimidation and then 30 miles down the road see they are on the same exit I'm taking.

Sheesh, it's far from Rvers that are the problem, but yes, some suited bureaucrat with a six figure income I"m sure will delight on blaming the RVers alone and find another reason to ban them or charge them for something else.

Not everyone takes a toad with them either and we are no bigger for the most part than many of the trucks on the same roads so why should we be differentiated against?

As has been said and observed daily, there's a lot of jerks out there driving any and all types of vehicles. My biggest pet peeve is, all day happy hour in Florida with older drivers, that think traffic signals don't apply to them, never check their mirrors before changing lanes, straddle both lanes, weave all the time, go fast then slow. Then they think they can squeeze prematurely down the turn lane and take your wing mirror off and scrape your vehicle - and we're concerned with young drivers

For sure courtesy whether on the road or in other life areas is becoming an obsolete to the detriment of the world as we know it. It costs nothing to pull over if you are knowingly going excessively slow I agree, but different situations require different reactions.

Also don't we need to remember as well that the posted speed limit is not the speed we are expected to maintain but the MAXIMUM speed we can go? Or has that all changed since I learnt to drive a few decades ago Isn't there a minimum and maximum speed allowable on main interstates/freeways/motorways? I know there is in some countries or you can't go on them.

I dunno, signs of the times and two wrongs never have and never will make a right.

PS: Oh, and while I think on, that space I leave between me and the vehicle in front is not for you overtaking me to squeeze in and get 3 seconds ahead of me at the next exit - that is my safety braking/stopping distance DUH.
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:27 AM   #21
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I followed an RV the other day with 17 cars in tow. It was on a 2 lane hwy with a 65 mph limit. He was doing 50 mph. When the limit dropped to 55 approaching town he dropped to 40. I'll bet he got a lot of 1 finger salutes when he got to a 4 lane section in town. It's people like that that give RVers a bad name. Also a big I AGREE on truckers that try to pass another truck that is basically traveling at the same speed and they drive side by side for miles. On I40 near Kingman, AZ I followed 2 trucks over 5 miles along with about another half mile of vehicles as one tried to pass, only to give up and drop in behind the one he was trying to pass.

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Old 09-23-2014, 11:29 AM   #22
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Common Consideration

Setting good example is good. Effective?
I agree with the grievances, but...
This is one of those threads that parlay the thought that a solution is not easy, but is available!
Poor driving habits started long ago.
You can pound your fists until they turn pink, curse until your face is purple, and blast your Hadleys until your ears ring, but the chances of permanently changing the driving habits of the habitual offenders is nearly nil.
Feeling better by venting might help, but expecting such acts and tolerating them makes the day go much better. Not going to such places at peak times also helps. Going to places the crowds are not is even better!
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:38 AM   #23
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Many of the tour operators want to ban the larger 5th wheels and motorhomes and there have been several petitions to limit or ban us.

Tour operators are behind this????

What will they themselves then do- trade in their huge buses for fleets of Priuses???
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:55 AM   #24
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I'm a cyclist and the same thing applies. It's just basically being considerate of your fellow man. I've actually avoided riding with people that refuse to work with the cars and other traffic. I've decided to be the friendliest and safest cyclist possible. Sometimes this means I have to temporarily slow someone down. ASAP I let them pass and wave to show my appreciation. ( For them not honking their horn or running me over )
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Originally Posted by Glenn and Kathy View Post
Also a big I AGREE on truckers that try to pass another truck that is basically traveling at the same speed and they drive side by side for miles. On I40 near Kingman, AZ I followed 2 trucks over 5 miles along with about another half mile of vehicles as one tried to pass, only to give up and drop in behind the one he was trying to pass.


In the UK there is a section of dual carriageway (2 lanes in each direction) where lorries have been banned from using the right hand lane (would be your left hand) orignally as an experiment to see if it would decrease overall journey times. Of course their were dire warnings from the Freight Transport Association, etc. of increased accidents, blah, blah. In the end the temporary experiment has been made permanent BBC NEWS | UK | England | Northamptonshire | Trial backs lorry overtaking ban

(Lorries have always been banned from the right most lane on motorways if it is 3 or more lanes in one direction)
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:14 AM   #26
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I agree 100% with the premise of this thread, show some common courtesy. We followed a black smoke belching foreign plated "land excursion vehicle" (one of those motorhomes with the 50" tires, four wheel drive, designed to trek across rough country) out of Arches National Park after sunset a couple of days ago. By the time we got out of the park he had a half mile of traffic backed up. We must have passed 50 pull outs.

I'd also like to have a word with those tour guides that would like to ban the big RVs. How much of their business, not to mention that of the many others dependent on the tourist trade, are they willing to give up to impose such a ban? I think the better alternative would be a few signs to the effect ("If you have more than 3 vehicles behind you, pull over").
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:56 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Glenn and Kathy View Post
I followed an RV the other day with 17 cars in tow. It was on a 2 lane hwy with a 65 mph limit. He was doing 50 mph. When the limit dropped to 55 approaching town he dropped to 40....
And the infuriatingly sad thing is that he's probably a nice guy in most other contexts, and if you had a conversation with him over coffee he would self-righteously insist that he was being the safe one by driving slowly.
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Old 09-24-2014, 11:28 AM   #28
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Far, far more dangerous are the tailgaters and speed demons. Those travelling a SAFE speed based on the following vehicle's distance are doing what is right.

Most accidents I see are due to insufficent following distance and/or excessive speed. Lets put the blame where it really belongs. Those folks need to be taken off the road.

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