Concerned for the future

[Chieflou]

O-B, thanks for that, now i don't have to go get meds for me too.

Best regards,
Lou S.

[Ray,IN]

Originally Posted by Chieflou

Somebody enlighten me if my reading comprehension has gone bye bye. But I’m not reading this with the same “no biggie, no real change” sense that many of you are.

Not to worry, most diesel is bio-blend already anyway, so no real change. Did I miss something? What I read says it doesn’t apply to petroleum/bio-diesel blends if they contain a minimum of 99% bio? And that's not the other way around -- 99% diesel, 1% bio. Or am I misreading that? Is anyone now running 99+% bio-diesel?

And it’s only a couple counties. No ... it’s only a couple counties in 2024 but bans statewide by 2027.

And it only affects “non retailers”. No … it bans from non retailers in 2025 in those same counties, and then all retailers statewide in 2028.

Regards,
Lou S.

There is a 100% biodiesel station on I 70 East of Sedalia MO. Every time I pass that exit I'm temped to fill there to see what happens. Well the first thing is a 10% mileage reduction; don't want to think about anything more so I keep driving.

[TASanDiego]

Most responses here understand the probable reason for such a bill. It is being made an issue in the news by those wishing to provoke. There are way too many diesel users in Clackamus County to do away with their diesel. This includes a Mercedes dealer, among others. Don't Worry, Be Happy.

[move on]

I'm not worried about diesel going away anytime during my lifetime. Diesel powers our economy and it can't be replaced by windmills. I'd be more worried about gasoline cars being phased out.

[Spk64]

Thread Reminder!
Lets keep the political comments out and stick to the topic.

Several post have been removed for not doing so.

Thanks to those posting within the Community Rules.

[Diesel-Lover]

Originally Posted by Fogbelly

Seat belts legislation is the "right direction" ?

LOL!

Thank the seat belts for allowing more people to smile and laugh out loud as else they would have been going through the windshield or breaking that big old wheel in front of em. But lax attitude was accommodated as late as 2000 when you could still buy a moho without shoulder belts! and many if not most of these rigs still don't have air bags in em! Some states may still allow driving the motor home without a seat belt!



Have known a few people who hit their heads on the windshield and others who broke their steering wheels with teeth, ribs and faces... no a purty site. Some who got rolled over after being thrown clear, have gone to the other place. Grew up in the land of 85 MPH right next door to safe and proper speed limits and as teenagers yes the reckless instinct was running rampant in the motorhead culture. Just yesterday I saw two old geezers riding side by side on choppers with them feet splayed out encroaching across the double yellow.... then there are those on twisty roads where in the turn their helmet less head is clearly on the other side during a portion of the turn. But hey the undertakers get a nice windfall then.



My wife has a rule, its gonna be an open casket farewell party, if I wanna show up all messed up its my call... so all the safety precautions are taken. Kinda vain that way... don't really wanna attend my farewell party a total mess if I can help it. Also I am of the mind to delay my farewell party as much as humanly possible while I can remain active and enjoy things.


Diesels are great yes some technology is problematic but it can be smoothened out when calmer heads prevail. Safety and Quality of life is paramount or should be for our health. Rules are a necessary measure for cultures and society to function as bounds create motion in the correct direction or at the least maintain a stable and hopefully higher state of affairs.

Mad Max most of us don't wanna be. Had an early edition of the CRX that gave close to 42-50 mpg all the time, and up to 55 if babied. Talk about handling, yes it was slow off the line but USAC did a cross country hypermiling and got mpg much higher back in 1984!. The size, shape and technology was delivering high mpg and still can today no need to reduce CAFE mpg requirements at all! Pollutants are not good for quality of life.

[Jaxon]

Originally Posted by fbh31118

I want to be clear that this is not intended to start debate. Please be kind.

Life has taken my family on a very long detour that has seriously limited our ability to camp and more importantly, invest in new equipment until recently. As we are exploring our new options in replacing our old war horse, 22 year old Dutchman TT, that has served us fatefully for nearly 15 years that we have owned it, we have been reading some startling articles on the web. My old diesel pick has served us well and has been pulling our tt any place we have needed to go for as long as we have been camping but I'm wondering if it might be over? Again, I'm not trying to jump to conclusions or hassle others for there point of view but I'm just wondering what the options are? We were just looking for a new trailer not an entire new (some thing that hasn't been invented yet, electric 1 tons, ect??)..... Is this stuff really issue? Wife and I are getting a little old for tent camping although we enjoyed it when we were younger. We were really hoping to find something new but I'm not sure I could justify it if I can't even go where we would like to over the nest 10 to 15 years given the length of a loan. Thoughts? (Please refer to article for further context, thx)

https://cdllife.com/2021/oregon-lawm...rting-in-2025/

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A bit of a disingenuous premise here... and equally as transparent. I'm sure the horse & buggy manufacturers amped up people back in the day when they saw the writing on the wall... probably disparaged Henry Ford, too.
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[aschuller1]

Originally Posted by MtCamper

Control the things you can control. Accept the things you can't. You aren't in charge. Accept change as inevitable, learn to embrace it. Nothing is the same as it was 20 years ago or even yesterday. Life is a dynamic process, roll with it. Look forward to the future and enjoy the memories of the past. We all wish we could recapture those pleasant times of long ago but that just isn't going to happen. Life on this earth is a one and done game, do your best to accept that birth is a terminal condition and move on.

[BruceDeville]

Originally Posted by fbh31118

I want to be clear that this is not intended to start debate. Please be kind.

Life has taken my family on a very long detour that has seriously limited ,....
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https://cdllife.com/2021/oregon-lawm...rting-in-2025/

IN MY OPINION: Tomorrow is not guaranteed, who knows what will be down the road in 15 years? Make a plan based on your desires and abilities to obtain them. Have a contingency plan should things go to heck.

[BruceDeville]

Originally Posted by 530ktm

And they supposedly help run our country. It will never happen and stay clear of Oregon when in need of fuel.

Heck, steer clear of West Coast, California, Oregon & Washington. OPINION, OPINION, OPINION.

[MikeBoyer]

It allows for low level blend of biodiesel. No reason to panic

[Fogbelly]

Originally Posted by Diesel-Lover

Thank the seat belts for allowing more people to smile and laugh out loud as else they would have been going through the windshield or breaking that big old wheel in front of em. But lax attitude was accommodated as late as 2000 when you could still buy a moho without shoulder belts! and many if not most of these rigs still don't have air bags in em! Some states may still allow driving the motor home without a seat belt!



Have known a few people who hit their heads on the windshield and others who broke their steering wheels with teeth, ribs and faces... no a purty site. Some who got rolled over after being thrown clear, have gone to the other place. Grew up in the land of 85 MPH right next door to safe and proper speed limits and as teenagers yes the reckless instinct was running rampant in the motorhead culture. Just yesterday I saw two old geezers riding side by side on choppers with them feet splayed out encroaching across the double yellow.... then there are those on twisty roads where in the turn their helmet less head is clearly on the other side during a portion of the turn. But hey the undertakers get a nice windfall then.



My wife has a rule, its gonna be an open casket farewell party, if I wanna show up all messed up its my call... so all the safety precautions are taken. Kinda vain that way... don't really wanna attend my farewell party a total mess if I can help it. Also I am of the mind to delay my farewell party as much as humanly possible while I can remain active and enjoy things.


Diesels are great yes some technology is problematic but it can be smoothened out when calmer heads prevail. Safety and Quality of life is paramount or should be for our health. Rules are a necessary measure for cultures and society to function as bounds create motion in the correct direction or at the least maintain a stable and hopefully higher state of affairs.

Mad Max most of us don't wanna be. Had an early edition of the CRX that gave close to 42-50 mpg all the time, and up to 55 if babied. Talk about handling, yes it was slow off the line but USAC did a cross country hypermiling and got mpg much higher back in 1984!. The size, shape and technology was delivering high mpg and still can today no need to reduce CAFE mpg requirements at all! Pollutants are not good for quality of life.

I'm less concerned about the risks of not using seat belts than I am about people who are certain they know what is best for me.

[Chieflou]

MikeBoyer,
I'm getting confused again. Is there another portion of the bill that we're not seeing? As I posted earlier, what I'm reading says minimum of 99% bio -- or no can sell

Regards,
Lou S.

[Jaxon]

Originally Posted by Fogbelly

I'm less concerned about the risks of not using seat belts than I am about people who are certain they know what is best for me.

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Hummm... I'm guessing the folks who pushed seat belt laws "knew what was best", huh?
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