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11-27-2011, 11:15 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Avon Lake, Oh
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Dash A/C or overhead AC?
Everyday , it seems I learn more. This site plus my snooping around the coach leads to discoveries, then of course more questions.
While driving, what is more economical to use, the dash air, or the overhead AC units and of course the generator. The manual shows under 1/2 load the genny will use about 1/2 gallon an hour. I can not find anywhere, how much it drags from the engine to run the dash air.
I have 330 hp cat, and a 7500kw genny.
Looking underneath, the length of these a/c hoses on a 40 ft home, really seems inefficient. I'm willing to bet the cost of replacing the dash AC is almost s much as rebuilding a generator.
MH gets 10 mpg, gen uses 1/2 gal per hour. The faster your drive the more efficient using the genny becomes.
I can not be the first person to wonder about this.
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11-28-2011, 03:57 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Country Coach Owners Club Appalachian Campers Gulf Streamers Club
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Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
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You are not the first and you won't be the last. A gas coach is more effected by a difference than a diesel coach but the general rule is that the generator and roof air conditioner method of cooling is more economical. However, there may be a time when running west late in the day, that the dash air is necessary; due to the heat load on the windshield. Good luck, enjoy and keep us posted.
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Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
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11-28-2011, 10:43 AM
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Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
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The dash air is a hidden load, often as much as 20-30 hp of constant power draw. You just don't notice it when you fill the tank. And the dash air won't cool the whole coach unless it is really small. In our 40 footer with a big glass "greenhouse", it barely keeps the front seat area cool.
Running one a/c on a 7500 watt genny is only about 20% load (1500 watts), so the amount of fuel used is tiny, around 0.2 gal/hour. Turn the big air on and enjoy it. We do so whenever the outside temp gets much above 80 and the sun is bright.
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11-28-2011, 11:15 AM
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Newmar Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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I use the dash a/c when driving facing a searing sun. Otherwise, both overhead units are running which keeps the entire unit cool. Also, it is very nice to have the entire unit cooled down already after getting all hot a sweaty setting up. I also use the dash a/c when my dog has to sit in my lap and sleep.
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11-28-2011, 11:37 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchStar38
I use the dash a/c when driving facing a searing sun. Otherwise, both overhead units are running which keeps the entire unit cool. Also, it is very nice to have the entire unit cooled down already after getting all hot a sweaty setting up. I also use the dash a/c when my dog has to sit in my lap and sleep.
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Ditto for us. Dash unit will not cool more than the drivers area and on a bright sunny day it struggles to do that. I run the front coach unit at least.
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11-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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We do it by comfort. If the dash air does the trick fine, if not we turn in the generator and roof air(s).
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12-02-2011, 10:05 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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In our Aspect 26A we run the dash air and it keeps the whole MH cool. I haven't checked running the roof air and checking the fuel mileage to see if there is a difference. I may do that the next time we take a trip. I know the genny is supposed to be super effecient when used to run the A/C.
John
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12-04-2011, 09:30 AM
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I did a calculation last summer for my 400HP DP and I think it was about 2-3% cheaper to run the roof air vs dash...not a biggie but with my 66" tall windshield the dash air definitely is worth it...!!!!
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12-04-2011, 11:50 AM
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In the overall scheme of things, the operating cost of one over the other is miniscule.
Jim E
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12-04-2011, 12:00 PM
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National RV Owners Club
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I agree with Pairajays about operating cost. For me it is creature comfort - If it's hot I use the generator & AC unit (just like in the cold winter I'll run the furnace to keep warm). On my RV it seems to take forever for the basement airconditioning to cool the RV if it is hot inside when we arrive at our destination.
Safe Travels
Bob
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12-04-2011, 12:47 PM
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We always run the roof airs, we set the bedroom a little cooler than the front air. We also when facing the sun, run the dash FAN only to circulate the cooler air up front. This helps a lot and does not put the load on the diesel.
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12-04-2011, 01:39 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I have seen this question many many many many times.. Many argue it is less expensive to run the genny.
What I find, and yes, this will very from rig to rig, is the HOUSE air does a tripple P job of cooling the cockpit area (I won't tell you what the first P iss but the other two are POT POOR). Silibant S on purpose)
Likewise the dash air don't do much for the house.
I use dash when driving less it's really hot, then I double up. (or if it is my 30 minutes under half load day)
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