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Old 06-13-2016, 03:26 PM   #1
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Did I get screwed? Very much?

I hit a patch of REALLY rough road on I40 west bound around mile marker 240. The truck ahead of me changed lane but I had someone beside me so I couldn't. I thought the coach would shake apart. About 60 seconds later the tread on the right outside dual depart. Not too much damage to the coach. The plastic cover over some lines came loose but stayed intact. Tire did not deflate! I managed to limp to the next off ramp, about two miles and got off. Of course to big parking lot was for a large XXX store. Called Good Sam RSA and the only tire they could find in my size was a Good Year G670 RV. I run Toyo's but had no choice. Good San RSA covered the service charge, miliage ect. My part of the bill was $1000.13. $675.55 plus the taxes and $148 mounting fee. I ask the guy about running a new tire with older tires and he said no problem. I called my service advisor in Calif and he said not a good idea at all.

I drove 55-60 mph the next 500 miles to Wichita Falls Texas watching the tire temp very closely. Never got more then 6 degrees warmer then the other tires. Lot's of rain so the speed and wet kept the tire temp down to a max of 86 degrees. Found a great deal on Toyo's to match the year old steer tires so I got four new Toyo M154's for the rear.

The question is how bad did I get hosed for the Goodyear tire? Is Is $148 a reasonable amount for R& R and mounting a tire. The shop in Texas only charged $20 a tire R&R. The roadside guy had to have me use the leveler to jackup the coach. His air jack wouldn't lift high enough.

Also... I now have a new - 500 miles Goodyear G670 (DOT date 4214) sitting in. My garage. Any idea of what it is worth? How can I sell it? Is there any liability behind selling it?

I can recommend T&W Tires in Wichita Falls, Texas. Great prices on tires. I saved over $100 per tire on the cost. With what I saved on mounting, balance and disposal my $1000 tire only cost me $400. The rears were timeing out and were going to be replaced this fall. If I get anything out of the Goodyear I will be very pleased. Thanks Johnny and the guys at T&W Tire.
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Old 06-13-2016, 03:31 PM   #2
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I can tell you at 2 am thanksgiving night a $700 g670 295 22.5 cost $1,300 and I was glad to pay on the side of interstate 85 so what you going to do.
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Old 06-13-2016, 03:40 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by WesPearson View Post

Also... I now have a new - 500 miles Goodyear G670 (DOT date 4214) sitting in my garage. Any idea of what it is worth? How can I sell it? Is there any liability behind selling it?
A Goodyear tire with a DOT code of 4214 doesn't sound very NEW to me. Heck it is almost 90 weeks old.

You should probably get about $100 from some trucker that will use it on a trailer.

Try Craigslist. No liability.

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Old 06-13-2016, 03:42 PM   #4
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Seems like a premium price for the tire and mounting... But you have to do what you have to do... Glad there was no other major damage.

I'm curious about what you paid for the four new Toyos and how old the ones on the rear were when the tread came off.
I'm running Toyos on the rear that are now a little over a year old. I'm hoping to get at least five more years from them.
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Old 06-13-2016, 03:48 PM   #5
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Given your situation you got a great deal. Just imagine if you damaged it to the point of being undrivable. You got your $'s out of that tire. List it, somebody may want one.
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Old 06-13-2016, 03:54 PM   #6
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By now you have already searched GY tire pricing and found that the price you paid for tire on side of road was not all that higher than if you had gone to a tire shop.

But what was the 'tax rate'
You stated:
"My part of the bill was $1000.13.
$675.55 plus the taxes and $148 mounting fee."

1000.13 minus fee 148 ------852.13
852.13 minus tire 675.55----176.58 (Sales Tax----26%????)
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Old 06-13-2016, 04:30 PM   #7
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This is one of the reasons I carry a unmounted spare tire...
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:30 PM   #8
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What state was the bad road in please.
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Yeah you got hosed.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:33 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by vsheetz View Post
This is one of the reasons I carry a unmounted spare tire...
Even that's not possible for our rig! 315/80's on the drive and 365/70's on the front and tag. No way will those monsters fit anywhere in the rig!
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:14 AM   #11
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you were able to Drive to a safe spot..
minimum damage to rig,
not stuck someplace for days.
NO towing charges.
Priceless. and it only cost you $1,000 .

and NO you did NOT need to change tires because of ONE new and 3 OLD...
Semi's have been doing this for 50 years..

think of the circumference of a NEW tire and a OLD tire.. its like running one tire with 10 pounds of air missing.

besides you said yourself almost do difference in tire temperature over 500 miles.
the OLD tires were OK with its New running mate. and same with the New One.

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Without having the tire size it is hard to assess the tire price, but $675 is within the range for most of the larger sizes, whether 19.5 or 22.5 diameter. But the $148 mounting fee is steep given that GS paid for the road service call. Road service mounting is going to cost more than a tire shop, but the guys time and the truck were already paid for in the service call. I think anything over about $60 additional is gouging you. But what are you going to do? It's the price you pay for not wasting space and tying up your money by carrying a spare.

The "old tire with new" rule of thumb suggests that you can pair two tires of the same size if the diameters are within about 1/2". Age isn't the question - it is the amount that tread wear has reduced the diameter on the older one. Obviously, the ideal is that both tires in the dual pair are identical in size, and also that all tires on the rear axle are identical in size.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:06 AM   #13
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I have been curious about dual tire matching. I found the statements below on a Goodyear site. Goodyear did not mention brand or load range matching.

Tire Wear Replacements - Goodyear RV

  • Dual tires should be within the following tolerances for tire circumference
    • — 8.25R20 and smaller sizes - tire circumferences should be within (0 to 3/4") tolerance
    • — 9.00R20 and larger sizes - tire circumferences should be within (0 to 1 1/2") tolerance
  • Mismatching can result in rapid, uneven tread wear because the larger tire carries more load
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:17 AM   #14
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Not sure if this will work for you but I keep a mounted spare under the bed. Maybe you could keep the new goodyear there?
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