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Sbrownstein · 09-02-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by traveler of california

So my current satellite will be obsolete?

Could be...depends on what you have and what they do. DirecTV isn't talking, nor is Winegard. From what I can tell they will have HD signals on 101, which is what most antennas receive. Receiver will have to change and maybe more.

frankly, I don't know what the big secret is here. But there seems to be one, at least for DirecTV.

Winegard could source an SWM lnb for their antennas...that is not too hard, but right now everybody is clamming up.

traveler of california · 09-02-2018, 08:42 AM

Wonderful. Just doesn’t seem right.

Legolas · 09-02-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

In a whole home DTV set up, there is a main receiver and smaller receivers called Genies. In my house, they are connected by cable to the main receiver. I imagine there are other configurations. If you have whole house service. the genie can record programs that are seen at the other receivers and vice versa.

DTV recently went through a software upgrade that has rendered the user interface much more difficult to navigate and the recorded programming is often hiding where it can not be found easily. There were 493 pages of complaints regarding this "upgrade to the user interface" on the DTV user forum. DTV is slowly fixing some of the main issues but these issues sort of coincide with AT&T buying them out.

I am getting Dish installed in my home on Sep 5 and for similar programming and number of receivers, it is about $50 less per month and I purchased a Dish Playmaker antenna and Wally receiver for my RV which will cost me $7 a month added to my Dish bill. I have been with DTV since the late 90s and have just had enough. I will have HDTV in my 5ver and won't have to worry about DTV shutting down the SD birds which RVers rely on for programming if they have an automatic signal acquiring dish or pay $1500-2000 for a Traveller antenna.

Could you expand a little on this issue. I have been a DTV customer since 2009 and have been rv'ing since 2011. I bought a Winegard automatic dish day one and it has been great. You seem to be saying that there will come a point when that will be useless along with my $700 investment in it. And it sounds as though DISH netwrok is the way to solve that problem. So I undertand that you were able to acquire an antenna for your rv as well as a receiver. As probably most RV'ers I have been bringing two receivers from home to hook up to the Winegard as I travel around. TV is very important to me and I will not stay with DTV if they essentially pull the plug on RV'ers or make it overly diifcult and expensive.

Sbrownstein · 09-02-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Legolas

Could you expand a little on this issue. I have been a DTV customer since 2009 and have been rv'ing since 2011. I bought a Winegard automatic dish day one and it has been great. You seem to be saying that there will come a point when that will be useless along with my $700 investment in it. And it sounds as though DISH netwrok is the way to solve that problem. So I undertand that you were able to acquire an antenna for your rv as well as a receiver. As probably most RV'ers I have been bringing two receivers from home to hook up to the Winegard as I travel around. TV is very important to me and I will not stay with DTV if they essentially pull the plug on RV'ers or make it overly diifcult and expensive.

Does you automatic dish receive HD? If so, you are OK, if not...you are not. At least based on what I have been able to determine

Sbrownstein · 09-02-2018, 11:47 AM

I would imagine that Winegard can do this for the new HD channel lineup on 101. They probably will but why not admit it...hate to pay $300 and be forced to go to Dish, but at least there is one way and I would get HD to boot!

Wouldn't need a new dish for DirecTV, just a new SWM lnb.

Legolas · 09-03-2018, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sbrownstein

Does you automatic dish receive HD? If so, you are OK, if not...you are not. At least based on what I have been able to determine

Frankly I don't know if it receives HD or not as I have never had an HD contract with DTV. My Winegard "dish" is in fact what looks like a small igloo that sits on a 3 legged stand. Bought from Camping World in April 2011.

So am I undertanding that a solution to the problem would be getting a "dish" that can receive HD.

Sbrownstein · 09-03-2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Legolas

Frankly I don't know if it receives HD or not as I have never had an HD contract with DTV. My Winegard "dish" is in fact what looks like a small igloo that sits on a 3 legged stand. Bought from Camping World in April 2011.

So am I undertanding that a solution to the problem would be getting a "dish" that can receive HD.

DirecTV will supposedly drop SD broadcasts on 4/30/2019. Nobody knows what this means for RV antennas. If your antenna has a small "power inserter" between the receiver and the dish, then it is an SWM antenna and should be able to continue to receive HD broadcasts from the DTV 101 satellite. Inserter shown below. Many of the Winegard automatic dishes are SWM, don't know about your specific model.

You will need a new HD receiver and if you do have SWM, there are a lot to choose from. DirecTV will probably get you one for free.

Legolas · 09-03-2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

In a whole home DTV set up, there is a main receiver and smaller receivers called Genies. In my house, they are connected by cable to the main receiver. I imagine there are other configurations. If you have whole house service. the genie can record programs that are seen at the other receivers and vice versa.

DTV recently went through a software upgrade that has rendered the user interface much more difficult to navigate and the recorded programming is often hiding where it can not be found easily. There were 493 pages of complaints regarding this "upgrade to the user interface" on the DTV user forum. DTV is slowly fixing some of the main issues but these issues sort of coincide with AT&T buying them out.

I am getting Dish installed in my home on Sep 5 and for similar programming and number of receivers, it is about $50 less per month and I purchased a Dish Playmaker antenna and Wally receiver for my RV which will cost me $7 a month added to my Dish bill. I have been with DTV since the late 90s and have just had enough. I will have HDTV in my 5ver and won't have to worry about DTV shutting down the SD birds which RVers rely on for programming if they have an automatic signal acquiring dish or pay $1500-2000 for a Traveller antenna.

I am not certain what a "Traveller" is Are you saying that an HD "dish" would cost $1500-2000. You say you "purchased" doe that mean you own it or are

Also, is the Playmaker antenna you got from Dish Network an automatic or one that has to be aimed.

You say "I purchased a Dish Playmaker antenna and Wally receiver for my RV which will cost me $7 a month added to my Dish bill." Did you really BUY it or is the $7 a month a rental cost.

I have 4 Directv receivers which cost me $6.50 a month, I dont own them they belong to Direct and if one goes on the fritz they must replace it at no charge to me .

Were you able to determine the DISH network package on your own from thier websit or was it necessary to work through their customer service folks.

Sounds like DirecTv is going to be losing a lot of business when they pull the plug on the current system

Legolas · 09-03-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sbrownstein

DirecTV will supposedly drop SD broadcasts on 4/30/2019. Nobody knows what this means for RV antennas. If your antenna has a small "power inserter" between the receiver and the dish, then it is an SWM antenna and should be able to continue to receive HD broadcasts from the DTV 101 satellite. Inserter shown below. Many of the Winegard automatic dishes are SWM, don't know about your specific model.

You will need a new HD receiver and if you do have SWM, there are a lot to choose from. DirecTV will probably get you one for free.

I do remember now, I camped in the Palo Duro Canyon in Sep 2014, it's in the Amarillo area of Texas. When I set up the Winegard I of course did not have local channels, everything else but no locals. I called Direct as I always did and gave them the info tmake a change of service so I could get locals. When I returned to the TT several hours later no locals...so I had to drive up and out of the canyon to get cell phone service. I called and after about a 3 minute hold I was told that since I did not have an HD contract they could not get me local channels because all the TV stations had moved to broadcast in HD.