Do Dealers think we are all stupid???

[Kayjulia]

In a word YES !
Every time I start looking for a new RV I run across the same malarky, the same dirty used car dealer tricks it makes me angry... so I try and stay away from them. However in a couple of years I will be looking for a new to me rig and I'll look at Craig's list first and local ads and maybe PPL in Houston I say maybe because they pull some tricks themselves and over charge for repairs to build in profit.

[Dixieray53]

Originally Posted by HMXDave

Am I doing something wrong with the site....I can't find Newmar.

Not sure if you found your Newmar but here is how I found your Baystar. Where it says don't see your manufacturer...click here. click and type under the b's for bay star and it is there.

It seems to be under the model not the manufacturer for the Newmar's.

Tracy

[FMFDOC]

I recently purchased a used coach at Lazydays and I feel it was worth the trip. I live in Wisconsin.

[B Bob]

I bought from a consignment dealer in Arizona and for the most part it was a good transaction. Was the sale person absolutely 100% honest, no, but for the most part yes. There are all kinds of people in this World and I have met a number of honest RV people who pass on some of their knowledge to you and have been very helpful. And I have met some that I did not believer were honest. You have to choose carefully the people you chose to associate with.

[Bowiesmom]

You may want to search Allergo, phaeton used, used 05 phaeton. With some extensive searching I found some nice 05's out there by the owners.

Originally Posted by fansill

Thanks Bill...wish I could go that high because Tiffins are really prime, but my budget is lower and I was looking at around a 2004-2006 Fleetwood Diesel Coach. It seems that all the dealers think that those type units are worth their weight in gold....

[badge2283]

I too, am in the market for a used 5er. I don't want to sell it myself. I have tried to deal with several dealers in Fl. Lazy Days, and Camper World St. Augustine are a joke at best. They both want top dollal for their's, and don't want to give you anything for yours. In addition I told them what the cash ammount I would spend. The least expensive unit Camper World showed me was 50% over me budget, the highset was 250%. The sales person also showed me new 5ers that were 800% above my ammount. I am so sick of being treated like I don't know my budget. I will stick to my local family owned RV sales (Robbins Camper Sales in Ormond Beach, Fl) Unlike the big dealers, they are honest, and trustworthy. I did not do much better with Giant RV World. Sales people do not follow up, and fail to return call.

[jfran304]

Originally Posted by badge2283

I too, am in the market for a used 5er. I don't want to sell it myself. I have tried to deal with several dealers in Fl. Lazy Days, and Camper World St. Augustine are a joke at best. They both want top dollal for their's, and don't want to give you anything for yours. In addition I told them what the cash ammount I would spend. The least expensive unit Camper World showed me was 50% over me budget, the highset was 250%. The sales person also showed me new 5ers that were 800% above my ammount. I am so sick of being treated like I don't know my budget. I will stick to my local family owned RV sales (Robbins Camper Sales in Ormond Beach, Fl) Unlike the big dealers, they are honest, and trustworthy. I did not do much better with Giant RV World. Sales people do not follow up, and fail to return call.

Check out PPL RV Sales. They have a lot of consignment RV's on their lot and some good prices.

Used RVs, Motorhomes, and Consigned sales - PPL Motor Homes

Jon

[MegaRoadie]

Have tried to buy from Lazy Days on and off over the last 15 years. First Diesel Pusher I was in process of purchasing, a 3 yr old HR Navigator, was literally sold to another buyer as I was sitting with the salesman trying to negotiate an extended warranty on it. Seems my salesman was a bit new and was overridden on my deal and I was left to whistle and walk away. About 5 years later again I tried to close a deal on a Winniebago Adventurer, this time they scrambled around for an entire afternoon, bounced numbers till their heads were spinning, tried to literally steal away my 36ft KA triple slide 5er with magical numbers wizardry... all to no avail as I am avid internet user and had done my homework prior to even bidding on the unit. That "deal" also died a miserable death in the Finance Office as they scrambled to find a reason to not meet the original agreed to price and conditions and as I sat at the Cracker Barel in the same lot I watched as a couple drove off in the Adventurer. Smarting from the double plays I stayed away from Limp Days for nearly 10 years. This year I tried to purchase a SuperB HR with 3 slides and again encountered the wizardry of the Finance Office ... my saleslady, bless her heart, did her best to work a deal out only to be repeatedly squelched by the Finance Office wizards (or crooks) at every turn. They offered me 12,000 more for my trade than it was worth and at the same time tried to raise the price on the Concord, when I would not agree they switched units 3 or 4 times trying to tout each "deal" as a steal and make me feel like I was being treated like a special customer... all with that magical numbers wizardry that only a Finance Office Business School Graduate with an IQ of 3 can conjure up. Not sure why I lost my sanity and went back the second time, no way to explain the third,,, senior moment maybe...:( One thing for sure, at this point I will NEVER go to Lazy Days/Limp Deals for an RV again... only reason to even go close is that they have a Camper's World Outlet there and I pray every trip that some of the mental midgets from sales at Limp Deals do not try and sale RV Parts ! Locally is always a great place to buy, if you feel you need a dealer, but as so many have pointed out you MUST do your homework and you MUST be willing to walk the minute you feel the trickery or numbers game is starting ! Sales persons DO NOT in any way make the dollar decisions, the Sales Manager is the Head Thief and if he is less than moral or even a bit overblown with his own self-enrichment then there is not much the salesperson nor the buyer can do to correct the trend...WALK AWAY, try to do everyone a favor and file a complaint with the BBB in the area and keep looking. Nothing out there beats being on the road, enjoying the RV Lifestyle, searching for that perfect campsite, that great local resturant, that next great trout stream ! Look for me out there and share your finds so we can all benefit.

[azloafer]

I was beginning to wonder if we were the only people who could not deal with Lazy Days, apparently not. Can you imagine this?...after many phone conversations we could never pin them down on a price! They expected us to fly one-way from Arizona to Florida and make the deal there and then drive the MH back to Arizona. I guess they wanted a blank check. Months later, after we had purchased a MH locally from a wholesale dealer, we got a call from Lazy Days. The sales person acted offended that we did not buy from him. We learned that when they make a really good deal for a buyer they have to make it up by making a not so great deal for someone else. I guess we were picked as that "someone else!" Joe

[Chuck 1935]

Look these guys up on the internet and see what good prices are all about. I bought my Motorhome from them and it was the best buying experiance I ever had, bar none. The owners name is Rick and couldn't do enough for us. We were so happy with the deal we sent him a gift basket. This may sound like I work for him (and I don't) but check them out for yourselves . You might be pleasently superised !!



www.conejowholesaleauto.com

[ctcamper]

I looked over the coaches in a lot one time and then out comes the salesman. He, during his pitch on the unit at hand, tells me they are new tires. I told him they were ten years old ... he goes what makes you think that, the tread is perfect. I told him to take a look at the DOT numbers on the side.. He all of a sudden had things he forgot to do inside lol I think he figured he blew it with me and another salesman took over.
Off topic but I remembered this thinking about that dealership:
Second salesman: I was talking with the next salesman and this guy walks up that had just pulled in the lot in an airstream and starts chatting. We all had a great chat up until he started going on about his time in the navy. He was bragging about being on the Iowa and , since I have a friend that served on the Iowa I said as much and asked him his name ... he abruptly left lol sometimes things just work out .. like his picking the Iowa instead of another ship to spin his yarn about ..

[Midniteoyl]

Off topic:

He was bragging about being on the Iowa and , since I have a friend that served on the Iowa I said as much and asked him his name ... he abruptly left lol sometimes things just work out .. like his picking the Iowa instead of another ship to spin his yarn about ..

My b-i-l was also on that ship. Was there when it blew. He was a FC and actually was suppose to be in there but ended up having to work on the FC computer... talk about close.

[Starfire5]

Well, I live in Florida and I just bought ours in Illinois! I found the dealers down here expensive and not wanting to budge. So, I found what I wanted at the price I wanted in the frozen north in the middle of winter! It was worth it for my husband to fly up and drive it back. Ours was a consignment from one of the national chains and they could not have been nicer to deal with!

[Cat320]

Originally Posted by fansill

I feel like I am in an alternative universe while I am shopping around for a new pre-owned coach... I see something I like and even though I believe that I appear to be a somewhat intelligent and informed individual, the dealers quote me prices that are higher than average retail and then they make it seem that I am insulting them when I offer them less than retail. Am I doing something wrong? I am using NADA prices as a guideline and starting my negotiation at low end of the NADA prices for the units. I have explained my rationale to a few dealers now and they just get angry and walk away. They say that they can not make enough money by selling units at less than mid-high retail. Where are these great deals that I am hearing about?

Frustrated in Massachusetts

Not stupid, just gullible and naive, with a huge case of "got to have it!"