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04-13-2009, 10:32 PM
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#295
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
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Never.
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04-13-2009, 11:12 PM
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#296
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
Posts: 1,064
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Have Gun, Will Travel 
Have Hammer, Will Travel
Have Pliers, Will Travel
I have other tools and we just do not need to go there  .
In the past when the world was a nice and stable place the gun was an option in the tool kit. I feel it is required now. There is filth and evil that are bred of drugs and deviant religions along with hungry illegals not being able to get jobs that pose a threat. We are a target, an easy target. Older adults in areas strange to us but on the other's turf make for an easy target. Cell phones have reduced those odds but when it gets down to the nitty gritty, the very last line of defense, what is the last tool? The non-armed should ask this question as much as armed people. You also need to ask yourself if you can use the tool, whatever you choose it to be. It's not just buying a gun or frying pan, it is also using it.
Just some thoughts.
Phil
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04-14-2009, 06:48 AM
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#297
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Senior Member
Pond Piggies Club
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Eastern Mid-Michigan
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When I was working on the road (1-1/2 years) I stayed in some pretty sad or bad CG by Myself all alone (trust Me) not the best areas (from Missouri to New York Sate). Did I feel I needed protection, believe it or not, NO! Do I or Will I carry No, if the RV life gets that bad, We quit. I do have hand guns at home locked up in the gun safe right now. I use them at the gun club for practice & the one I hunt with on occasion. JMHO
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02 F250 PSD/07 CF29RK Cruiser
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04-14-2009, 08:15 AM
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#298
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
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There is a town in I believe Texas (not sure if thats correct) but the crime rate was going through the roof; The town mayer passed a law that every citizen must carry a gun; guess what? the crime rate went to zero,
If the lawless think you are unarmed, I assure you; you will be robbed, the reason that RVers are not robbed more is the knowelge that the lawless know that most RVers carry.
a To all those that don't believe this, do this; when going in a strange place make sure to let everyone Know in the area you are unarmed, The lawless won't be long comming. you will be known as an easy mark.
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04-14-2009, 08:21 AM
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#299
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Question?
do I carry / OH YEH
A police officer friend of mine told me that if a robber is armed and approaches you; expect that he will shoot you, Shoot first; If hes out side your dwelling and you shoot him; drage him in and (THEN) call the police.
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04-14-2009, 11:07 AM
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#300
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Castle Rock Co USA
Posts: 572
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Always do and always will.
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04-14-2009, 11:49 AM
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#301
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Appalachian Campers Ford Super Duty Owner Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Four Oaks, NC
Posts: 501
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I was raised in the country with a gun in one hand and a fishing pole in the other and competent in the use of both but have no desire for a firearm in the RV. Not having a gun doesn't mean I have no means of protecting myself and/or property. I know too many people who receive a false sense of security and only increase the danger to themselves. JMHO
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04-14-2009, 01:44 PM
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#302
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmar10
I was raised in the country with a gun in one hand and a fishing pole in the other and competent in the use of both but have no desire for a firearm in the RV. Not having a gun doesn't mean I have no means of protecting myself and/or property. I know too many people who receive a false sense of security and only increase the danger to themselves. JMHO
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Question:
There is many ways of protecting oneself; ----but----I don't know of any thats faster than a speeding bullet.  .
Please advise if there is?
If there is an robber standing 10 feet away pointing a gun at you; what is your defence? knowing that he may shoot you at any moment.
If someone broke into my camper when I was in there; I would not hesitate on shooting them.
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04-14-2009, 04:04 PM
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#303
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Member
Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
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I have always carry and always will. I even have a NRA sticker on my door just to let anyone/everyone know that I support them. Like many people have said, if the criminal thinks your armed they will move on to someone that they don't think is armed.
If you want some case studies to look at, look up what has happened in Australia. The government bought back all registered guns from the citizens and the crime rate has gone through the roof. Then look at Switzerland, the government makes every household owe a gun. They even give safety classes to everyone. There grime rate is almost Zero.
Some great information on the NRA website.
NK
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04-14-2009, 06:12 PM
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#304
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Gretna Ne
Posts: 487
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We pack two, 12ga & 357.
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04-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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#305
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 183
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Something to ponder, as I said before I respect anyone's wishes and position on what they choose to do. As one post says, they do not carry, they do not prepare for that, they focus on enjoying the moment and the trip, that is GREAT as we all do.
BUT, to say that you dont prepare for things, well look at it this way, we all usually have some sort of tools on board, jumper cables, wrenches, etc. Isn't this a preparation to have the proper tool to fix something when it goes wrong? It is the same thing to carry a firearm, it can be a tool used to repair a situation that has gone bad. And as previously stated in another post, it does NOT have to be a gun.....
A gun is an inanimate object, a tool to be used for many purposes, it is the wielder of that tool that commands it. I know there are many people out there that can vouch that a gun can be a deadly weapon, but then again so can an ink pen if you know how to use it.
In the end, whatever "tool" you choose to prepare with to protect your self and family make sure you are proficient with it, even if it is just your senses, which hopefully you don't come to after the fact.
Happy and SAFE RV'ing to everyone, I know, as a group, I do feel safer knowing there are people out there like me in the RV'ing world willing to help out a fellow man in need.
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04-14-2009, 07:47 PM
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#306
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robert h
There is a town in I believe Texas (not sure if thats correct) but the crime rate was going through the roof; The town mayer passed a law that every citizen must carry a gun; guess what? the crime rate went to zero.
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The town you're thinking about is Kennesaw, Georgia (about thirty miles from me).
As for carrying a weapon, I'm in the ALWAYS category.
Better to have a gun and not need one than to need one and not have one.
Steve
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04-14-2009, 08:24 PM
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#307
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 355
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Most of the responses have not been actual experiances. We have had such a experiance and were luckey to escape unharmed. We were at a one night lay over just north of Tallahassee in a small mom and pop campground. We had just set up the MH when my wife called to me from the front of the coach. She had just seen a speeding car nearly hit our truck parked in front of the MH and then swerve and almost hit another vehicle next door. What happened was a pair of car thieves that had just car-jacked a Dodge Charger at a local grocery store were trying to get away and had mistaken the drive at the camp for a good road to leave the area. They had sped through the camp and lost control of the vehicle and crashed into a creek and stalled the car. They then ran on foot through the camp until they found our MH front door open and tried to come in. DW was standing at the front of the coach in the doorway with our dog,a strong 60+ lb. Lab and a good judge of character who imediately disliked the 2 fellons. They were attempting to enter the MH and I am sure would have held us hostage or worse. I had a pistol but it was in a secure area and not readily available. When the two men saw the agressive dog they decided to vacate the area and ran into the woods around the camp. A fellow RVer had already called the Fla. State Patrol who quickly apprehended one thief and subsequently arrested the other the next day. I tell all of this story to remind us that everything can change fast and the simple carrying of a gun may not be sufficient. I still carry a gun, but a good dog is quicker and in most cases a good deterrant to would be troublemakers.
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04-14-2009, 09:20 PM
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#308
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 405
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DW does not like guns so they are in a safe at home. However, I do have several very sharp knives placed around the coach where she does not see them(?). I realize that a sharp knife is not as good as a pistol, but DW has her fears and I have to live with her and them.
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